Problems with Peco 009 points

[pilotfriend]

What I said was that just as someone started a myth about carrots for night vision, which is still believed today, someone started a myth that Sundeala was good for model railways and folks are still trying to use it today.

[rhobat bryn]

What I said was that just as someone started a myth about carrots for night vision, which is still believed today, someone started a myth that Sundeala was good for model railways and folks are still trying to use it today.

Ah I see.  My apologies for being slow on the uptake.  The version I heard was that the myth about carrots was to encourage the eating of vegetables by children during the war, mothers being the main vehicle for conveying this information.  I hadn't heard the reference to night radar interception of German bombers; that's a new one on me.

As to the use of Sundeala, you clearly have very strong views on this.  Did you use Sundeala in the past and found it wanting or are your views based on observation of others' use of it?

[pilotfriend]

Did you use Sundeala in the past and found it wanting or are your views based on observation of others' use of it?

Oh yeh!

[rhobat bryn]

Did you use Sundeala in the past and found it wanting or are your views based on observation of others' use of it?

Oh yeh!

It was a genuine enquiry.  I'm sorry that my question appears to have angered you.  I won't trouble you any further.

[Hobby]

I think John, like most of us, has tried it in the past and found it wanting, hence his earlier posts comparing the stuff to other things which don't work... There are far better materials for baseboard tops, you're better off using them! My personal favourite is 6mm ply.

[rhobat bryn]

I think John, like most of us, has tried it in the past and found it wanting, hence his earlier posts comparing the stuff to other things which don't work... There are far better materials for baseboard tops, you're better off using them! My personal favourite is 6mm ply.

Thank you for that insight.  As I already have Sundeala, I shall persevere with it and will no doubt encounter the deficiencies that you and others have come across in the past.  If it's not too much to ask, I would be grateful if you could you tell me a little of your own experience with it and what you found to be the main deficiencies of this material compared with the 6mm ply that you recommend.

[pilotfriend]

"It was a genuine enquiry.  I'm sorry that my question appears to have angered you.  I won't trouble you any further."

You did not anger me one bit. It was a light hearted way of saying that I have tried it and seen the results of others. Again, the material destabilises and warps over time. This can be even quicker if dilute PVA is used for ballasting and scenery.

Rhobat, if I was cross, it would be very noticable.. ;D
best
JdF

[membership]

So I now have a layout made of bendy material supporting track with points that dont work -- no wonder I have more delay's than network rail!

[rhobat bryn]

You did not anger me one bit. It was a light hearted way of saying that I have tried it and seen the results of others. Again, the material destabilises and warps over time. This can be even quicker if dilute PVA is used for ballasting and scenery.

Rhobat, if I was cross, it would be very noticable.. ;D
best
JdF

My apologies for the misinterpretation and thank you for explaining the reasons behind your views.

[Hobby]

In answer to your question, R, the answer is the same as John's - warping!

[rhobat bryn]

In answer to your question, R, the answer is the same as John's - warping!

Thanks for the observation.  I haven't got to the stage yet where I have laid the track permanently as I'm still working out what I want the layout to do.  However, in the light of your and John's comments, I am minded to have the Sundeala removed and have 6mm plywood fitted when the time comes to lay the final formation.

[pilotfriend]

I am minded to have the Sundeala removed and have 6mm plywood  :) :) :) :)

[Hobby]

Yeh, yeh, yeh...

http://www.009.cd2.com/buildingcg.htm

;D ;D ;D

[pilotfriend]

Sundeala might be good if you are modelling a scenic railway

[DeadHorse]

That is the vertical equivalent of a reverse curve !!! :o