Using N gauge wagons for 009?

[Dave Cooper]

Stephen - just as a footnote, I wouldn't worry too much about mixing 'bits and pieces' from different scales /gauges at this stage.

Build a simple test track and just get something running ! It will soon become apparent what works and what looks right, or not,....especially as you seem to have a knack for picking items up 'on-the-cheap'.

Further on down the line (oops, there's a pun)....you'll probably want to standardise on couplings just to make operating easier - but, you can manage with some bent wire (or similar) in the meantime.

Happy modelling,
Dave

[Stephen Rainsbury]

Build a simple test track and just get something running ! It will soon become apparent what works and what looks right, or not,....especially as you seem to have a knack for picking items up 'on-the-cheap'.

I have thanks and you are right, I was playing with a few bits last night just to get a feel for what would fall of small radius points, when my wife burst in to tell me that it was 3:15 AM and wasn't I going to bed. (The answer is nothing that I own at the moment )

Further on down the line (oops, there's a pun)....you'll probably want to standardise on couplings just to make operating easier - but, you can manage with some bent wire (or similar) in the meantime.

Thanks, after reading various comments I had decided that Greenwich couplings were the right way, but I am not so sure now.

Thanks Dave, the "cheap" option is because I have a strict personal rules about buying on eBay.

• Have a shopping list and buy what is on it
• Keep search terms open and check for spelling mistakes. My Decauville loco was cheap partially because the seller spelt the name wrong.
  
• Never bid more than 66% the new cost
• place the bid an hour or so before it ends and then leave it

That has worked right up until I started buying railway bits and I now keep finding myself bidding on crap and hoping that somebody else wins :)

[Dave Cooper]

I've just bought the Greenwich "accessory set" - couplings, magnets and height gauge. Will let you know how I get on...

3.15 AM !!! I can't get away with that (unless, perhaps, I combine it with a trip to the bathroom).

Interesting auction strategy by the way... 

[Stephen Rainsbury]

I've just bought the Greenwich "accessory set" - couplings, magnets and height gauge. Will let you know how I get on...

3.15 AM !!! I can't get away with that (unless, perhaps, I combine it with a trip to the bathroom).

Interesting auction strategy by the way...

Please do let me know how you get on with the Greenwich Couplings. Some of my eBay "bargains" were cheap because they didn't have couplings and each one has its own challenge to overcome :-)

3:15 is not normal, but being semi retired days of the week and hours in the day are getting very blurred.

I have bee buying on eBay since 2001 and learnt the hard (expensive) way that you have to be strict, having said that I lost 5 auctions today, including a kit that went for 50p more than my maximum because somebody jumped it at he last second, and I probably would have increased my bid by enough f there had been time.

[Hobby]

Irton is in Eskdale, Cumbria - don't go there in January looking for 009 Sales!! I think you mean the annual SWOONS members day in January at Ilton, in Somerset!

I only realised I had mixed the two up after I'd logged out but knew you'd be along to correct me! At least they both have NG connections!

[MickT]

I only realised I had mixed the two up after I'd logged out but knew you'd be along to correct me! At least they both have NG connections!

It's not done for malicious fun, I regard it as an essential public duty, as somebody has to do it................................. :police: ::)

Mick

[Stefan Krebs]

Dear Stephen,

I have bee buying on eBay since 2001 and learnt the hard (expensive) way that you have to be strict, having said that I lost 5 auctions today, including a kit that went for 50p more than my maximum because somebody jumped it at he last second, and I probably would have increased my bid by enough f there had been time.

That's a shame, but remember: if it's on ebay once, it'll come around again (except rarities like the Keyser Feurige Elias). So there's every chance you'll get it at your price with patience.

To find out if your price expectation is reasonable, put in the search term, select the options >Title and description<, >lowest to highest<, >worldwide<, and search. Now select >advanced< (top right) and in the new page select >completed listings<. You'll get something like the last 30 days of auctions and what prices were achieved. Based on your amount of patience you can establish your maximum price...  ;)

Cheers
Waldschrat

[Stephen Rainsbury]

To find out if your price expectation is reasonable, put in the search term, select the options >Title and description<, >lowest to highest<, >worldwide<, and search. Now select >advanced< (top right) and in the new page select >completed listings<. You'll get something like the last 30 days of auctions and what prices were achieved. Based on your amount of patience you can establish your maximum price...  ;)

Absolutely, then factor in how much work that specific item will need, and if it is actually something I need or just want :-)

I lost nine auctions yesterday, but they all went for very silly prices so I am not too bothered. There were three lots of 5 tipper wagons, I bid £15 on two of them, but they all went for £30+, you can buy the new from Dundas for not much more.  The rest were manily bundles of mangled n/h0e/009 rolling stock that I only wanted for the chassis to use for scratch build projects.

Stephen

[Stefan Krebs]

Dear Stephen,

I see, you're watching what I'm watching :laugh: , and you identified the lure of ebay: people pay more than the stuff costs in the (internet)shops. Something to be mindful with regards to your own attitude. My rule is 'less than half price new including postage'; exception only for absolute rarities. Some on my wish list are there for more than 5 years. Really 'need' and model railway? Err no, I don't think so.  ;D

You don't say what sort of chassis you're looking for? Plain truck chassis only, I can think of the Dundas Hudson only, but they are cheaper new.
Wagon chassis (with leaf springs) I use H0 bogies, there seems to be an endless supply of pre-Hornby Jouef bogies (they can't be glued, i.e. need screwing). I also eyeball the old Triang Zamak TT-gauge chassis,  which seems to come around frequently at a good price, but haven't used them yet (same issue: can't be glued, i.e. needs screwing). I have used Kitmaster TT-coach bogies, but not for chassis.


Cheers
Waldschrat

[Stephen Rainsbury]

You don't say what sort of chassis you're looking for? Plain truck chassis only, I can think of the Dundas Hudson only, but they are cheaper new.

I have enough working rolling stock to "start playing trains" and as much again for projects so I don't have a specific eBay list now.
If I see them at the right price I might be a couple of guards vans, some 4 wheel coaches and some chassis for specific projects. These include a 4 wheel Diesel tanker and some coal wagons for supplying my engine shed.

Apart from that I would like to add to my small Joueff collection, but only in perfect condition at a low price, so I get a daily search email, but no rush.

Stephen

[B.Meldon]

Or use Bemo H0m wheelsets. They can be squeezed in to 9mm because they sold the same models in both 12mm H0m and 9mm H0e.

Do some of the Bemo 12mm gauge wheel sets have a ridge on the axle that prevents them being pushed in?

Brian Meldon

[Retiarius]

Or use Bemo H0m wheelsets. They can be squeezed in to 9mm because they sold the same models in both 12mm H0m and 9mm H0e.

Do some of the Bemo 12mm gauge wheel sets have a ridge on the axle that prevents them being pushed in?

Brian Meldon

None of the rolling stock I have does, but I have had H0m locos where you can't regauge the wheelsets. Steam outline can't easily be regauge but most diesel/electric locos can.

[B.Meldon]

Apart from that I would like to add to my small Joueff collection, but only in perfect condition at a low price, so I get a daily search email, but no rush.

Stephen

I think I provided a link to the 009 News article all about the Jouef H0e range in the loco restoration thread. As I mentioned getting all the versions of the loco, the V skip, the toastrack, the log wagon and even the track is quite easy. (note the two versions of the Jouef points.) The two items that are somewhat harder to get are the pre-formed layouts. The larger one sold in the Playcraft box do come up for sale from time to time, but expect to pay around £500 for one in good condition in a box, but by far the most dificult item to obtain is the small pre-formed layout that was sent out to shops as a publicity item. I have never seen one of these for sale.

[Hobby]

Or use Bemo H0m wheelsets. They can be squeezed in to 9mm because they sold the same models in both 12mm H0m and 9mm H0e.

Do some of the Bemo 12mm gauge wheel sets have a ridge on the axle that prevents them being pushed in?

Brian Meldon

Some do, Brian, but they are just on the locos I believe, the electric and diesel locos from what I remember it's set so you end up with approx 9mm gauge at it's minimum setting! The steam locos will normally need a new chassis block to work right but I suppose it could be done, personally I'd just sell it on and get one of the correct gauge!

The wagon and coach wheels just have plain axles, though, so are fairly easy to regauge using a back2back gauge.

[Stephen Rainsbury]

I think I provided a link to the 009 News article all about the Jouef H0e range in the loco restoration thread. As I mentioned getting all the versions of the loco, the V skip, the toastrack, the log wagon and even the track is quite easy.

You did indeed Brian, and I ended up reading all the stuff about Eggerbahn too.  When I say collection I only really want a working loco, and at least one of each type of rolling stock as I remember them, so green and red tipper only. I plan to keep them in factory condition where possible, but still run them just for fun every now and again.

Stephen