The Society Heritage Collection

[clayliner]

David
Something like this?      Rodney.    http://www.s-scale.org.uk/history.htm

Well, that's certainly an impressive narrative, and would be good to achieve if someone could not only put the work in but also have a comprehensive overview/grasp of the parallel story for 009 (presumably it couldn't be done by a group of qualified people as it seems from previous comments that no committee is capable of producing anything useful!)

But I was originally thinking of a simple picture gallery with captions, similar to the 'members layouts' section already on the Society website.

Brian, thanks for your willingness to help!

Given the general feeling that the 009 News might play a major role in getting the Collection to a wider audience it might be useful to have some comment from our esteemed Editor, but he tells me he's 'not on the forum' so I imagine we are unlikely to hear from him here. Presumably the same goes for the rest of the Committee, which seems a shame.

David.

[gtmspyder]

Well that is interesting, the fact that the editor is not on this forum. :o

Although it does clear up why, when I was offering an article about Glen Ogle to the then new editor of the news, it seemed that somehow, my quite long scribing's about my efforts in building Glen Ogle on this forum, and the plethora of pictures attached, were not reflected in any answers I received from the editor about my submissions.  :)

Or there disjointed ultimate appearance in the magazine, which upon reflection, when I read them in the magazine, I thought were rubbish, and I should never have submitted them for publication in anything other than "The Beano"  :(

So perhaps even more proof that caption writing is best left to A N other, should this now eight page discussion ever get off the ground. ::)

But my offer of help in any capacity still stands. :angel:

Regards,

BrianT.

[Stan Williams]

Having looked at this discussion I wondered why it had been brought up, as I can not recall anyone previously asking about the Heritage Collection.

I would like to ask David (Clayliner) why he brought the subject up ?

Was it his own idea or was it discussed with others at a previous get together ?

Did he volunteer or was he asked to bring it up ?

I note there was a group meeting in his location on the 21st October and a meeting that he possibly attended on the 26th October, the day he started
this discussion.

Just interested, as nobody ever discusses the Heritage Collection.

Stan.

[Hobby]

Just interested, as nobody ever discusses the Heritage Collection.

Probably because very few people knew about it, Stan. I'd heard about it when Julien was involved as he told some of us, but I still didn't know what was in it!

I don't know what made David bring the subject up, but I am glad he did and I hope we can get to do something useful with the collection now we know it's there!


Brian I doubt we'll get an email back from Charlie, or at least I assume we won't, though just confirmation he's got them would be useful...

[Malcolm]

Seems to me if members read their 009 News they might well be aware there is a Heritage Collection.   There were two announcements in the past couple of years in the 009 News regarding additions to the Heritage Collection, namely P D Hancock's 'Angus' and 'Joan' from the C&MR.  Either members have no interest in such matters or don't read their 009 News........

Stan.  Whatever David's reasons for raising this subject now are I care not.  On a number of occasions since the Convention in Kegworth, I have considered raising the question of the Heritage Collection however, as I am not in a position to commit to devoting any time to the matter and did wish to place additional work onto the shoulders of others, I have kept silent.   If I was not under Lord Craig's thumb I would have been/be only too glad to have got/get involved.   I would add that I was given to understand at said convention that following the convention the Heritage Collection was going away to be photographed with a view to articles appearing in the 009 News thereafter.  Got the impression the then Editor, Tom Dauben, was quite keen on this idea.

Now back to drafting my e-mail to Charlie.

Malcolm

[Hobby]

Two entries in two years when they've had them at least 8 or 9 years is hardly publicising it, is it! I suspect those are the two I was aware of... Oh well, let's see what comes of this...

[clayliner]

Stan - your sleuthing would do Poirot credit!

I didn't attend the local gathering at Pat Collins's on 21st October and I don't know what meeting you are referring to on the 26th, but whatever it was I wasn't there. However, I was present at a discussion elsewhere where the Heritage Collection was mentioned, which is what later prompted me to ask questions here on the Society forum. No-one else knew I was going to start this thread and certainly no-one asked me to - having turned the matter over in my mind it seemed a good idea to use the Society's forum to air the matter and try and find out the current situation (which presumably is what our forum is for).

So it's as simple as that, I'm afraid.

David.

[gtmspyder]

Good morning David.

If it is true that our magazine editor does not frequent these pages, and he has been mentioned enough times to think he would have responded in some way to this debate, and it would seem from the lack of response to emails that our secretary doesn't peruse his computer too often either, then the only way to get any response would have to be a letter in the magazine, which all the membership receives, to get any sort of movement on this subject.

Now considering the length of time between each print run, and the number of pages available in each print run, and the magazine editor already threatening to blue pencil some of the member group reports in the last issue of the magazine, because they are using too much of the allocated paper,  I don't hold much hope of anything meaningful coming out of that route either.

I know that a lot of 009 members frequent the narrow Gauge on Line forum, where any posting receives an almost immediate response, of help, critique or whatever, then perhaps the past eight pages of debate should move over to that forum, where it will get a wider response I am sure.

Well lets see if that little tirade will stir some movement, I have all ready commissioned a bricky to build me a wall. ::) ;D ;D ;D

As yet, I have had no reply from Charles. :(

Kind regards to the few who are reading this. :)

BrianT.

[Hobby]

To be fair to Charles he's got a busy life outside the Society. It may be that he only checks the Society Emails every so often. However I'm sure that the Directors will be well aware of this thread by now, especially as we've asked for the subject to be raised at their next meeting. Rather than try to second guess what's going on why don't we relax (as I think we've all had our say on here and passed on our thoughts to the Secretary Director) and wait and see what happens next.

Hopefully after the next Director's meeting we'll get some feedback from someone that does look at the Forum! (One thing, though, when IS the next Director's meeting?)

[Stan Williams]

Thank you David for answering my questions, so promptly.

I am sure you will agree with me and many other 009 Society Members that we should be careful in bringing up matters on this Forum that may
undermine an elected official of our Society.
Members can write to the secretary or chairman of the society, but the AGM is the correct place to have an open discussion.
If members cannot attend the AGM, they can still have matters raised by writing to the secretary prior to the AGM date.

There will be a committee meeting in January over the weekend of the Swoons event.

Stan.

[Malcolm]

I have e-mailed Charlie with my suggestions and can confirm he does read them and reply to them. 

Charlie informs me he is a member of this forum but is having access issues which have to date prevented him from posting.  Hopefully these will be resolved soon but in the meantime do e-mail Charlie with your views.

I seem to recall reading something recently to the effect the 009 News editor is not a member of this forum but perhaps Mods can confirm.

Going off topic for a moment.  Whilst I appreciate our Directors are busy people I would have thought all should be members on the Society's own forum even it is to do no more than keep tabs on what the membership is plotting.  A timely word or two from a Director could provide facts rather than allowing speculation to run out of control and so inflame a situation out of all proportion.  (Rod of course is a member of the forum just temporarily disconnected due to his laptop dying.  Get back soon Rod)

Malcolm

[Charlie Insley]

Hello All!  I'm now back on the forum, and have enjoyed (no, seriously) this thread.  The heritage collection is an ongoing conundrum for us, since we're a modelling society, not a museum, and not set up to be one.  We seem to have more or less stumbled into being custodians of what are significant items in the history of small scale NG modelling!   Thanks also to those who've emailed, and the very helpful suggestions from Malcolm, Brian and Blair, among others.  We will be discussing this as a committee in January and I will disinter the policy I first wrote in 2009 (!) as a starting point.  Keep on with the discussion - it's all very helpful.

Charlie

[gtmspyder]

Hello Charles and welcome back to the forum.

Thank you for your reply and it would be nice to think that the society committee is going to give thought, and  act, on what is a subject that needs attending to.

We of an age that remembers the Railway modeller articles that have prompted the collection of some of the artefacts that I presume are in the Heritage collection, would find it gratifying to see pictures and references to them, so that the younger membership can appreciate our regard for them and the modellers who presented there effigies and stories on the pages of magazines in the past.

I certainly think that a photographic record of them, with suitable captions, would be best displayed in a similar way to members layouts on the forum, with a similar display in the Magazine, even though this will take considerably longer to cover the collection and take up many pages of Magazine space.

Thank you for your response.

Kind regards,

BrianT.

[MickT]

A quickie for the benefit of those who have posted here saying they knew nothing about the Heritage Collection, or they'd only ever seen a couple of photos of a couple of the items, can I recommend a visit to my photo report of the SWOONS members day held at Ilton, Somerset in January this year easily findable

http://micksrovingreporter.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/14-january-2017-swoons-members-open-day.html  

And check out photos 65 to 69 and 73 to 81 where you will see comprehensive sets from the David Mander Stronachlachar collection, the Derek Naylor Aire Valley collection and the two locos that the Society has in the collection from PD Hancock's Craig & Mertonford.

There are also photos of items from the Heritage Collection in many of the other reports in the blogsite, notably the Society's Convention in Kegworth in 2013 where just about the whole collection was on display for all 3 days.

As nobody has mentioned this yet, it makes me wonder if it has been worth bothering going to the trouble of creating these photo reports if nobody looks at them!

Mick

[andy1878]

Mick, rest assured your efforts are appreciated.
The collection is a priceless resource and deserves to be fully appreciated.

Andy