DM40 WHR 'Bro Madog Eisteddfod' bogie coach

[Sven]

Hi all,

I've built and currently painting the kit DM40 WHR 'Bro Madog Eisteddfod' bogie coach of Parkside Dundas, which is a very nice coach. The painting and details are going to be freelance, but while doing that, I looked on the Internet for examples of what has been done before, or how the original is/was. Has anyone built this as well and would like to share a picture here?

[invercloy]

Here's mine:

[Sven]

Thanks for posting, Tom, that is a very beautiful one. I coincidentally ordered two more yesterday, to make one into a rail car as well. I was thinking, without seeing yours, to put a grill there as well, so if you see one on mine, just a coincidence! I like it that you closed the middle window to make space for a logo. I might steel that idea...  :angel:

I ordered a Kato 11-106 motor for it, what did you use?

On a rail car like that, would there be a grill on both fronts? I guess not, as there is only one engine in there?

[invercloy]

Glad you like it, Sven.

It is based on a Liliput chassis from one of these:



I bought it from Rails of Sheffield for

[DeadHorse]

No pics, but I have built three. Nice kit.
One as standard, one converted to Gladstone Coach, one converted to workmans coach.

[Tigger]

It's a superbly versatile model.  Easy to build and with just a bit of imagination can be built in so many different ways; ideal for light railway practice.  Greenwich couplings can be used on the (WD) bogies with extension pieces and just a bit of weight in the underframe makes them roll well.  We have three on Buccabury, two coaches and I built the first Eisteddfod Railcar - Charlie Insley build the second!  Chris Ward (Practical Plastics) produced an excellent clerestory roof which looks as though it'll fit rather nicely.  I'll see if I can dig out some photos.

[Sven]

Please, dig them out, those photos! Love to see some. Maybe I'll spot some in Birmingham coming weekend.

Tom, that seems like a good choice as engine. The Kato 11-106 I have ready is not very powerful. Probably powerful enough to pull two coaches. But as Tigger, I've put some extra weight under the coach, so it might become a struggle going slightly up hill.

A nice rail car to change it into, I would say, is this Swedish one. Very special I find the footplate and fence at the front. It's actually foldable, as seen in the second picture.





Source: http://www.mats.hakarps.com/nyhem/Motorvagnar.htm

[Tigger]

The Dundas WD bogies are very sweet runners - if any of the axles are a little tight it pays to ease the bearings very slightly with a hand-held drill.  On Buccabury (ok, so there are no gradients) all of our locos can generally handle a pair of Eisteddfod coaches and a couple of Nine Lines cattle vans.  As a taster, here's a photo (taken by Andrew Hall) from the Buccabury website showing the Buccabury railcar (in green) alongside Charlie's railcar on my own layout.  I built it with a centre engine compartment and a single rooftop radiator which I thought looked in keeping with Buccabury's light railway atmosphere.  I'm sure there was an article in the News, actually.  I'd love to know how many railcars were inspired by the Buccabury one!  At one Sparsholt show we had a 'railcar rally' which attracted a few!  I'll still hunt out some more useful photo for you.

[Tigger]

OK, so here's some photos of the Buccabury coaches and railcar.  For the coaches I bought a couple of extra bogies from Andrew so I could install a brakewheel (in red) inside the end of each coach so they can be used as a pair or singly with a guard/conductor.  The railcar has a bell from a VERY old Lima King George V (I knew it'd come in useful if I kept if for long enough!) and whitemetal cowcatchers either from Dundas or Langley, suitably mounted.  The centre window was blanked off with a piece of very fine brass gauze. the radiator was built from Preiser beer crates and the exhaust pipe was made from wire and brass tube.  The chassis is an old Bachmann GP40.

[MickT]

These railcars appear to be strangely familiar somehow, sure I've seen them or very much like them somewhere or other, Tigger - whoever you are........................ ;)

Mick

[Tigger]

Sussed!  Possibly.  you might be on the right lines Mr T!  Check out your own photos from January's Beds & Bucks show...

[tedp]

What's the size of the Eisteddfod coach body in mm? There might be some way I can use it myself.

[garrywhiting]

What's the size of the Eisteddfod coach body in mm? There might be some way I can use it myself.

Ted, the coach body is length 104mm  width 25mm height  28mm.

[tedp]

Thanks Garry, it means the sides are tall enough for what I had in mind (future project). The ends are too narrow but that can be remedied.

[Sven]

Tigger, I love your work! Very nice indeed. Thanks for sharing.