suitable loco kits or scratch build for a Kato 11-105 powered chassis

[MickT]

John
I've just noticed that your member profile lists an email address for you, so to save all the bother, I'll scan you the 009 News article and send it to that address. I'll also see if I can find the Knightwing bash that I started ages ago using a Shorty chassis and dig out some dimensions and any relevant notes.

Please let me know before I send a confirmation that the email address you have put on your member's profile is the correct one to use (seanbearne)

Mick

[MickT]

Well that took just over 20 minutes to do and I now have scans of the 4 pages of the article ready to send you plus a couple of my own version that uses the Shorty chassis. As soon as you have confirmed your email address to me, I'll send the scans across to you.

I'm posting this here for members to see because this very aspect was the subject of an issue I raised at the Society AGM on Saturday re: back issue service. We used to have a good back issue service until 18 months ago when it was ceased as apparently it was of mixed quality and doubtful usefulness. In reply to my raising this as an agenda item, I was informed that there had only been one request raised to the committee since the service was ceased, so re-introducing the service was a low priority one. My point was that there are often queries raised on both our own closed Society forum (here), on both the Yahoo Groups that cater for 009 modelling and on the public access ngrm-online forum about "how to do" things - exactly as with John's new member query here, and the response is frequently "it was covered in 009 News issue X pages N to Z", to which the reply is often "how to I get hold of this article". My point that I tried to make, but didn't get very far with was that it is quite easy to provide this members service, it costs nothing to do and therefore I believe that Committee should seriously consider appointing or co-opting somebody with the role of providing the service for members, which is what the previous incumbent did before he retired but was not replaced. After all, we have (apparently, but not very well communicated to the members) a "Technical Panel" to answer all queries, which I imagine would be very relevant here, and we now have a Publications Officer who we are told is responsible for All Society publications - so I would have thought that digging something out of a previous publication to help a member out would be a service that could and should be capable of being provided easily - just done it. Hon Committee please add this to your cogitations and procrastination lists for future debate and hopefully action and attention.

Rant over, I'll get me coat.

John -I await your email confirmation

Regards

Mick

[murphy1570]

Hello Mick
Thanks for your prompt reply and for scanning the article(s) for me, for some reason in my profile my e mail address is as you say seanbreane, this is not correct it is actually seanbyrne@blueyonder.co.uk, if you send them to this address I should get them no problem and will let you know Mick as soon as they arrive.
As to the other points you raise in your e mail Mick re back issues etc I for one totally agree with the points you raised at the meeting, it is all fine and well for someone to say you can find the information re my question for example, that you can find it in issue x.y.z. if the back issues service no longer functions as it used to when I was previosly a member of the society,WHY? It used to be excellent and would try to search out articles ie like mine above.I am glad Mick you raised some of these points at the A.G.M., and I hope some note was taken of them, after all we are all interested in narrow gauge modelling.
Thanks again Mick,all the best, John.
PS. Mick hope you got your coa!!

[MickT]

Hello Mick
Thanks for your prompt reply and for scanning the article(s) for me, for some reason in my profile my e mail address is as you say seanbreane, this is not correct it is actually seanbyrne@blueyonder.co.uk, if you send them to this address I should get them no problem and will let you know Mick as soon as they arrive.

Hi John,

Good job I did ask you to confirm your email address then!  ;)
Scans now on their way to you. Hope you find them of use. Thank you for your comments about the back issue service. My advice is to represent this directly to the Committee via the Secretary - who is not a member of this forum. Putting it to the committee officially is the only way that it will get onto the agenda and the only way this much missed and needed members service will get reinstated is if enough members tell the committee that they want it.

Mick

[murphy1570]

Hello again Mick
Thanks very much for sending me the article from the 009 magazine re the Knightwing bash scans etc relating to using the Kato "shorty chassis" for use with Knightwing kit (do you happen to have a phone number for A1 models  as for the life of me I cannot find them even on the internet} as I would like to order the kit from them. The scans you sent me are excellent Mick and I will certainly give it a go when I can source the kit, the scans are an excelent tutorial.
As regards the back issue availability (or lack off as the case may be!!), I mentioned to you that I had e mailed the membershipr secretary re back issues and also to ask if the library loan service was still available, I was unaware that he is not a member of the forum therefore I will e mail him directly posing the back issues and library services I mentioned above and there availability, I feel these are very important to assist people in the pursuit of our hobby.
I will let you know how I get on Mick both with my e mail to the membership secretary and also my attempt to get the kit up and running.
Thanks again Mick all the best,John.

[MickT]

John,

Thank your for your response and glad that you have received the article plus the other photos OK.

Oh dear there appears to be a bit of confusion! To try to unravel this:
1. Always use "proper" email if you have an email address. PM's via forums are all very well, but even for those who are members, the notification that there is a message is not very clear and I have often gone weeks without noticing one in my "my messages" box. Because this forum is a closed one for Society members only does not mean that everyone is a member of it! There were 221 members last time I looked (yesterday) but there are over 1200 Society members. Whenever contacting anyone on the committee you should always do it via the contact details published on page 3 of 009 News - and if it is something that needs to be recorded, then obviously this should be in written form, so to contact the Secretary, please either write to him at the address given or email him at the email address pubished: secretary@009society.com

2. Not sure why you have A1 models mixed up with Knightwing. A1 provide very good and economical (

[JulienW]

Not much to do with Kato Shorty projects (sorry) but perhaps the above is an indication of the effectiveness of an unofficial 009 News back number service - the informal "I have that article in my pile of back issues and can scan and e-mail a copy if you want" - and why there is not an 'official' back number service due to lack of use by Society members.

It also means that the 20 minutes to find, scan and e-mail each article is spread around multiple Society members, not one poor b****r (on the Committee?) who ends up spending all his time scanning and e-mailing, and not building 009 models (or having a life!).

Anyhow, thanks Mick as you saved me the job of locating the issue in amongst my full set then scanning...

Though I was planning to send it off without checking the e-mail address so it would never have got there :(

[murphy1570]

Love the lorry.

Here is picture of the lorry I built on the Kato shorty chassis. It basically a Dundas VoR Brake van.
Hello Keith
I have just orderd a kit from Parkside Dundas of the VoR Brake van you used for use with the Kato shortry chassis, I like the look of it you have made a great job of it and encouraged me to have a go, if possible Keith could you give me any advice on how you carried out the conversion as I am a beginner at this and would appreciate any advice you may be able to give me.
Thanks all the best,John.

[Isle of Stoner]

Hi

Glad you like it. I seem to remember that I cut the floor moulding of the van so that it is glued onto the chassis so its the right size for the body... if you see what I mean and then basically built the van round the floor but cutting a square windscreen in one end and adding the bonnet parts from a lorry kit to the front. I think the lorry was a knightwing kit but I can't be sure.

Sorry to be so vague, basically make it up as you go along and if it looks right to you then it is right!

There a re a couple of pictures of a couple of other rail lorries I've made on the forum if you follow the thread for Arnold lane Wharf in the layout section.

Best wishes and don't forget to post some pictures of progress.

Cheers

[murphy1570]

Hello there
I have just stumbled accross your reply re the brake van question I asked about how you built it , thanks very much for your reply and advice re the conversion I will certainly give it a go.
Thanks again, all the best, John.

[tat2drod]

His 'beginners' kits can be found at http://www.hpmix.com/home/yoshiya/Yoshiya/A4_1.htm#17.

Seems to have moved to http://www.justmystage.com/home/yoshiya/sub3.html

Gr.,

Rod

[vulcan]

Sorry to hijack the original thread, but what happened to the CDs that David Camis used to supply (or their original files of course)? At least they would form a basis for finding earlier articles. Maybe one of our more computer literate members could be conned /persuaded into updating?

I would offer but it's taken me 3 weeks to post photos on ngrm online :-[