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When did bogies roll in?

Started by Tom Haythornthwaite, June 09, 2020, 04:02

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Tom Haythornthwaite

In what decade did narrow gauge railways start to use bogie wagons?
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Hobby

Depends where in the world you are talking I suspect. Each country would be different. Most started with 4 wheel then moved on later to bogie when the demand outstripped the capacity of 4 wheel vehicles and/or they travelled longer distances. I wouldn't be surprised if the earlier use would have been in the USA as that's where their general use was in the early days but that's not my field of expertise so we'll have to wait until someone in the know comes along.
Blair

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Peter Boulter

According to the Festipedia, the NWNG railway had a bogie coach that was built in 1891 and had others built in following years.
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Tom Haythornthwaite

Actually I did a bit of research of my own and found the Darjeeling Himalayan Railway inherited some 32 foot flatcars in 1940.
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Robin Webster

Spooner back in 1870s introduced them successfully on the Festinog line.The first bogie coachs were put into service on the DHR in 1909.
In the US a logging railroad constructed to the 2 foot gauge introduced them in 1877 based on the Festinog line.
Robin.

Jeff Schumaker

Quote from: Robin Webster on June 09, 2020, 17:46
Spooner back in 1870s introduced them successfully on the Festinog line.The first bogie coachs were put into service on the DHR in 1909.
In the US a logging railroad constructed to the 2 foot gauge introduced them in 1877 based on the Festinog line.
Robin.

I believe the US line you are referring to was a common carrier in Massachusetts, not a logging line. Most narrow gauge lines in the US were using bogies on their equipment from the beginning, excepting industrial lines.

The Denver & Rio Grande RR in Colorado (3 ft gauge) had 4 wheel equipment initially, but quickly switched to those with bogies. They even had a Double Fairlie, named Mountaineer.

Jeff S.

Robin Webster

Yes, your right Jeff. I was confusing myself with Main.
Totally off subject. Years ago during the summer months i would camp in a lean-to in either Main, New Hampshire or Vermont. Racoons were a pain at night sniffing for food.
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duttonbay

The Leek & Manifold opened in 1904 exclusively with bogie stock.  Calthrop's first venture into his 2'6" ideal was the Barsi Light Railway, opened 1897, again exclusively with bogie stock, all British built.

Robin Webster

Talking about bogies, im looking for the fox pattern style for my wood and cardboard Barsi standard goods van/ box car in 009/ HOe.I can't seem to find anything on web sites. I checked out the 2mm society but found nothing there either. Perhaps my wording is wrong. So for now I'm using Micro trains arch bar trucks/ bogies.
Any help would be greatly be appreciated.
Robin.

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Tom Haythornthwaite

It seems the other railway inspiring mine, the Eritrean railway, may not have received bogie wagons until 1966.
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duttonbay

When considering Fox bogies, those provided on the goods stock for Barsi, Leek & Manifold, and the Victorian Railways narrow gauge were all very similar pressed steel. This blog post from Puffing Billy shows the style:
https://puffingbilly.com.au/news/workshop-blog/the-fox-bogie-revisited/

The N scale Fox bogies I can find on various online shops all seem to be passenger bogies, with leaf springs. The goods stock had a coil spring above each axle box. Very different...

B.Meldon

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Two high-sided bogie waggons Nos 88 and 105 were built at Boston Lodge for use on the FR in 1874.

For a photo search for 549 on this website:

http://www.ffwhresource.com/
Brian Meldon

Peter Boulter

Thanks for the link to that very interesting site.
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