roco H0e v fleishmann n track

[Pete Williams]

still flabbergasted at the price of Roco H0e point work, I found that I can buy a fleischmann  N gauge 15 degree angle electric point (made by the same company)  for little more than the narrow gauge product bought without the electric motor.
I am aware that the two are slightly different in size, but I would like to know -
is the rail height of the two products the same and are they compatable apart from the sleeper spacing ?
I know that Peco products are cheaper, but I don't want the loud buzzing noise when the points are changed electrically.

[Allscales]

Hi Pete,

Yes it's not the cheapest track! Let me have a look, I have some of both....

[Allscales]

Much to my surprise i managed to join a Roco HOe point to a Fleischmann point...

Once joined the railheads form a smooth join, the bottom of the sleepers looks to match as well, but there I think you won't know 100% until you've stuck it down and tried it...

Cheers,

Friso

[andy1878]

Hi
Are you set on using Roco point work?

Personally I have had great success using Peco point work (with the spring removed) and Cobalt slow action motors.

I share your discomfort with solenoid type motors simply from the noise they make, but also standard Peco and Seep only have one change over switch which leads to further cost and complication if further switching is required for feedback, signalling etc.

IMHO Frog power switching is essential from the outset if using PECO Live frog types (In fact of the last two I installed one didn't provide continuity from new) this is probably the case with similar types.

Currently I am experimenting with servo motors in an effort to reduce the capital cost per electrically remote controlled turnout.

A Peco + Cobalt tips in around

[Pete Williams]

A query to A&h models confirmed that roco and fleischman tracks are compatable and made by the same company.
Still can't understand how a H0e point can cost around

[Pete Williams]

Ps- thanks for suggestions and help with this
Happy new to year to all !

[jimowers]

A query to A&h models confirmed that roco and fleischman tracks are compatable and made by the same company.
Still can't understand how a H0e point can cost around

[B.Meldon]

A query to A&h models confirmed that roco and fleischman tracks are compatable and made by the same company.
Still can't understand how a H0e point can cost around

[cp.409067]

..... I am using the Peco Setrack Insulfrog points with surface mount motors on a lot of my layout. ..... These are 9 inch curves and they cost

[jimowers]

Yes, it is PL-11 but you got the point :o

From my personal observations I think that the surface mount point is far less clunky in use than Peco solenoids. They seem to be quieter in the way they throw the point across and much less aggressive with the track. The only downside (and this applies to all surface mount solutions, such as Roco, is that the motors are visible on the layout and so have to be disguised in some way.

Another motor to look out for is the Tillig one if the size of a surface mount motor worries you. They are thinner than the others but likely to work best with Tillig track and the price will be higher than Peco.

[cp.409067]

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Jim

Thank you.


CP

[Hobby]

I am aware that the two are slightly different in size, but I would like to know -
is the rail height of the two products the same

Roco HOe track is Code 83, don't know about the Fleischmann stuff though.

I just use Peco as I think they look better than Roco.

[Allscales]

Just be careful when balasting around the Fleischmann points. The mechanics are all underneath and are great at sucking up the PVA/water/Fairy liquid combination!

A friend of mine models in N and uses the Fleischmann track, he now uses Scatter Grip around the points.

If you want to get Fleischmann track in bulk for silly money, then try Anoraks Anonymous, they normally turn up at TINGS with a lot of it. They often sell points (in boxes, near new) for around

[jimowers]

Yes, it is PL-11 but you got the point :o

From my personal observations I think that the surface mount point is far less clunky in use than Peco solenoids. They seem to be quieter in the way they throw the point across and much less aggressive with the track. The only downside (and this applies to all surface mount solutions, such as Roco, is that the motors are visible on the layout and so have to be disguised in some way.

Another motor to look out for is the Tillig one if the size of a surface mount motor worries you. They are thinner than the others but likely to work best with Tillig track and the price will be higher than Peco.

Just to update you all...
I have spoken to the Peco Technical Bureau this morning who advise me that the PL-11 surface mount point motor "was not designed" (their words) for use with the new Peco OO9 9 inch curve Insulfrog Setrack points and that the width of OO9 loco and rolling stock bodies may foul the mechanism if it is installed with one of these points.

My spellchecker changed 'Setrack' to 'Setback' and I think that sums it up! It is such a pity that they have not updated the descriptions for either the new points or the point motor or, better still, both.

[B.Meldon]

A great many of the point motors on my Westdorf layout are above the board.

They are all standard Peco point motors on PL-12 adapter bases, some using the extension bar that comes with PL-12 and some not. The motors all have accessory switches a s frog polarity switches mounted on top (some of the SG ones have two switches, the second one for automation, but this is not recommended by Peco)

Each one was positioned so it was hidden in one of a variety of removable track-side buildings or behind scenery with an opening for maintenance.
Some have more than one extension and go under several tracks in groves cut in the 6mm ply trackbed covered with card.
It all took quite a lot of planning but it has proven to be very reliable.

I see no reason why this would not work with the 9 inch set track points.

However If I were you I would wait until the electrofrog version of the 9 inch point is available. (1Y to 18 months perhaps??)

Brian Meldon