Worsley Works WW1 Dick Kerr petrol loco for

[Brian Mosby]

At the Rainhill show last week i picked up a Worsley Works WW1 Dick Kerr petrol loco 4 mm scale

the wheel base on the real locos were 5'6'' which is 22mm in 4mm looking around for a chassis i can across from B-train that is 24mm which for me is close anought
link to chassis
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351229521894?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

& here are photos of both sides of the etch

001 by Mozzer models, on Flickr



002 by Mozzer models, on Flickr
I will be makig a start once the chassis arrives from Japan

but I can pop out all thoughs rivits before if i get time
I just need now is some axel gards & springs


I know ther will be problems with the wheels & chassis compared to the real loco But this is for Dean (my 11 year old son)he is in to the 1st world war at the moment so this is to be a cheap build just to give him a WW1 loco to use on my new layout

so far the loco has cost under

[Brian Mosby]

well tonight i have had a Riviting Time poping out the rivets on the etch
the tools i use are i hard steal pin in either a wood block or pin vice & a small hammer

001 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

005 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

002 by Mozzer models, on Flickr


heres a riverting video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrJhPMC0nCI&feature=youtu.be


& after 380 etch rivets hit twice

006 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

[Brian Mosby]

In todays post arrived the chassis from japan
So i hope to start soldering up the body over the weekend

[Hugh Norwood]

 :o You have a lot more patience than I would have doing all that riveting. Well done!

[Brian Mosby]

:o You have a lot more patience than I would have doing all that riveting. Well done!

As i do this all the time I get in to a rythm tap tap tap tap tap the time just flys

[Brian Mosby]

Well tonight i have built up the body I still need to make the detail bits like the axle boxes  etc

I form the cerves around assorted rods to get the right shape

001 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

here are the parts ready to solder togetter

002 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

next i solded on handels to the bonit hatches

003 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

I solded up the parts in to 3 sub parts using 183 deg solder

004 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

I then solded the 3 sub part togetter using 70 deg solded apart from the frames to the cab buffer beam wear i used 183 deg solded

005 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

006 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

iI added a lip in the cab door to stop the chassis from sliding to far into the body

007 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

008 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

end of part 1 of 2

[Brian Mosby]

with the chassis i removed the coupling from one end & cut the chassis hard againce the screw mount i also filed the detail off the chassis sides

009 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

010 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

& here are some photos of the loco on its chassie

011 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

012 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

013 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

014 by Mozzer models, on Flickr


thats it for now

[DeadHorse]

For detailing my model I used PC Models etch for BR door handles which contains excellent hinges and what looks like the type of latch that secured the panels - they did not use the type of handles you have modelled.
Also the remains of the trolley pole gear which is a feature of these locos is nicely represented by the valve assembly which comes free with old expended gas lighters which you can find littered around pub doorways etc. Break open the top of the lighter and remove all the gubbins and you will see the bits I mean. They almost seem to have been made for the job.
If you cant find a suitable lighter I can post you a few.
There is also a T bar channel with lifting rings that runs across the top, supported by a round bar that goes down each side and fixes at the midway point between the axles. The panel behind this does not open. There is another engine access panel on top of the bonnet which is not often shown, but as the viewers of our models will mostly see the loco from above it should be modelled. I believe there is a suitable oblong piece in the Worsely etch for this. I think it has some sort of filler cap, but maybe others can tell you more about this.
I would like to know whether these locos were glazed or not, so hopefully that too will be answered.  ;)

[tedp]

That's nice, Brian. A very neat job, with all the curves and sub-assemblies. Good idea that two-stage approach with low melt solder for final assembly. I rather like the riveting scene - it's done quickly and cleanly, not a lot of curvature in the brass afterwards. I expect you could simply tweak it straight before cutting the pieces out of the fret.

The end result is very clean on the outside, since you did most of the soldering inside the body.

[Brian Mosby]

For detailing my model I used PC Models etch for BR door handles which contains excellent hinges and what looks like the type of latch that secured the panels - they did not use the type of handles you have modelled.
Also the remains of the trolley pole gear which is a feature of these locos is nicely represented by the valve assembly which comes free with old expended gas lighters which you can find littered around pub doorways etc. Break open the top of the lighter and remove all the gubbins and you will see the bits I mean. They almost seem to have been made for the job.
If you cant find a suitable lighter I can post you a few.
There is also a T bar channel with lifting rings that runs across the top, supported by a round bar that goes down each side and fixes at the midway point between the axles. The panel behind this does not open. There is another engine access panel on top of the bonnet which is not often shown, but as the viewers of our models will mostly see the loco from above it should be modelled. I believe there is a suitable oblong piece in the Worsely etch for this. I think it has some sort of filler cap, but maybe others can tell you more about this.
I would like to know whether these locos were glazed or not, so hopefully that too will be answered.  ;)

I have a copy of the Book WDLRAlbum which i am using for the detail
The door handels are wrong I know but I am building this as a quick build as its a Xmas pressy for & 11 year old son at the moment he wants to watch any thing there is on TV about WW1 so this loco is just to give him something that looks like a WW1 loco for him to run on my new layout onec there is track down in the new year

I have some etches left over from some MK1 coaches that i will be using for the hingers  I have to also make up the lifting link

[DeadHorse]

I have a copy of the Book WDLRAlbum which i am using for the detail
The door handels are wrong I know but I am building this as a quick build as its a Xmas pressy for & 11 year old son at the moment he wants to watch any thing there is on TV about WW1 so this loco is just to give him something that looks like a WW1 loco for him to run on my new layout onec there is track down in the new year
I have some etches left over from some MK1 coaches that i will be using for the hingers  I have to also make up the lifting link

Its too good for him - give it to me. I have been a good boy all year honest I have.  :angel:

[Brian Mosby]

That's nice, Brian. A very neat job, with all the curves and sub-assemblies. Good idea that two-stage approach with low melt solder for final assembly. I rather like the riveting scene - it's done quickly and cleanly, not a lot of curvature in the brass afterwards. I expect you could simply tweak it straight before cutting the pieces out of the fret.

The end result is very clean on the outside, since you did most of the soldering inside the body.

Thasnks Ted

[Brian Mosby]

Deadhorse he says he will fight you for it  ;D :police: :angel:


Well I have now finished all the soldering on the loco I still need to make some axlegards out of micro strip & glue on the brass hingers



awating couplings

002 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

003 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

& here are some photos of the loco after it having a wash on some track


004 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

005 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

006 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

007 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

008 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

009 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

010 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

[tedp]

I see you used the same coupling castings I used in my steeplecab electric loco.

That chap sitting down seems to be a little worse for wear.

[Brian Mosby]

here are my axel boxes

011 by Mozzer models, on Flickr