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Tomix 4-inch radius curves

Started by danny, August 30, 2013, 18:45

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danny

Does anyone have experience of using the 4-inch radius curves made by Tomix in Japan, such as rail height, what stock will go round them etc?

Krizzy

Danny

Keep this thought in mind when using any track laid to a very tight radii. Small radius means small locos and small wagons. Or you may find your wagons being thrown off the track as the loco coupling swings outwards. The tightest radius I have is the old Egger set-track curves. No doubt Brian M will tell us all the exact radii of the Egger track.
Small locos like a quarry Hunslet and small wagons like the Minitrains skips or slate wagons. Personally I would not go down to 4 inch rad.

Roger

rod335

I've said this before and had invective heaped on me but whilst there is no objection on my part to small radius curves, provided appropriate stock is used. I do find L & B type stock running round 9" radius curves, 'because they will' to be offensive and ridiculous. I know the new Peco coaches have been put round 7" radius curves, I suppose that means a certain sort of person will give great whoop of glee and say 'that's what I'm going to use!' Yes, you can, but they'll look b***** awful while they do it.

Rod

B.Meldon

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The Egger-bahn track has a 5
Brian Meldon

Krizzy

Told you so !!

Apologies, my set-track used is of the Jouef variety, not the Egger.

Roger

Cambridge Paul

1) Egger steel rail set curves ~ track centre 143 mm radius
                                             ~ outer edge of sleepers 142mm
                                             ~ inner edge of sleepers  134mm

2) Tomix curves ~ think works railways and/or tramways
    Gas works

Tigger

Quote from: rod335 on September 06, 2013, 13:22
I've said this before and had invective heaped on me but whilst there is no objection on my part to small radius curves, provided appropriate stock is used. I do find L & B type stock running round 9" radius curves, 'because they will' to be offensive and ridiculous. I know the new Peco coaches have been put round 7" radius curves, I suppose that means a certain sort of person will give great whoop of glee and say 'that's what I'm going to use!' Yes, you can, but they'll look b***** awful while they do it.

Rod
OOOHH!! Excellent!  I'll be able to get the new Peco coaches round the 9" curves on the L&TR!!! ;D ;D ;D

rod335

And they will look b***** awful whilst doing it! Or maybe the overhang in the centre doesn't matter to you?

Rod

B.Meldon

Quote from: rod335 on September 11, 2013, 13:12
And they will look b***** awful whilst doing it! Or maybe the overhang in the centre doesn't matter to you?

Rod


Rod, are you suggesting that it would be better for David not purchase the new Peco L&B coaches or perhaps that he rips his layout apart and starts again from scratch with more generous curves?

There is no getting away from this but many of us have layouts that date back to the 1970
Brian Meldon

rod335

No Brian, I'm not suggesting either of those courses, and, indeed, I think you are being somewhat ingenuous in your question. What is done is done. What I hope will not happen is that someone coming new to 009 will see the coaches, I saw a finished production model last night and they are definitely worth the wait, and immediately go down the line of thinking '009, 6" radius curves, and this stock will ook lovely, lots of track in a tiny space." It won't look lovely and sooner or later the modeller will realise the error of his ways and either chuck it all away and start again, or chuck it all away and give it up. If my comments can possibly prevent either of those two eventualities occurring, then they will have been helpful.

Rod

MickT

Quote from: B.Meldon on September 11, 2013, 14:25
................I for one hope that David does not do this with  theL&TR.

http://www.buccabury.co.uk/ltr/

Brian Meldon


However, I do hope that it is not too long before David updates his L&TR website as it is now over 3 years since the last update!!
Come on David, put those clocks and 7

tedp

You can always cut a 2" section from the middle of the carriage if it won't fit...  ::)
Ted Polet

Craigcorrie & Dunalistair Railway
Nixnie - a minimum size 009 layout

rod335

Good one Ted! But I think you know where I'm coming from. There is a world of difference between running large stock on HIDDEN 9" (or thereabouts) curves to running them on similar curves in full view, where, as I've previously said, they look b****** awful with the huge overhang in the centre.

Rod

tedp

Quote from: rod335 on September 11, 2013, 19:15
Good one Ted! But I think you know where I'm coming from. There is a world of difference between running large stock on HIDDEN 9" (or thereabouts) curves to running them on similar curves in full view, where, as I've previously said, they look b****** awful with the huge overhang in the centre.

Rod
;D ;D ;D

I thought you would bite! But I'd advise David to stick to his layout as it is, 9" curves or not. Long wheelbase stock doesn't go with many old layouts including mine. However it won't keep me from buying a few RTR L&B items.

But I fear we are hijacking Danny's thread.
Ted Polet

Craigcorrie & Dunalistair Railway
Nixnie - a minimum size 009 layout

Tigger

*Emerges from reinforced concrete bunker to view battleground, carnage and smoking ruins*

Well, I didn't expect all that!  I think I agree with everything that's been said since my post yesterday!  Yes, they'll probably look 'orrible on the curves; no that won't stop me buying them; yes, when I photograph them I'll be careful where I do it; no, I won't be ripping up and relaying the railway; yes, I could cut a couple of compartments from the middle but then I'd have to take something off the height and width as well; and finally, Mick's absolutely right in that I haven't updated the website in three years and now I've actually got some more material I might just do that!  I haven't abandoned 009; it's just that 7