In what decade did narrow gauge railways start to use bogie wagons?
Depends where in the world you are talking I suspect. Each country would be different. Most started with 4 wheel then moved on later to bogie when the demand outstripped the capacity of 4 wheel vehicles and/or they travelled longer distances. I wouldn't be surprised if the earlier use would have been in the USA as that's where their general use was in the early days but that's not my field of expertise so we'll have to wait until someone in the know comes along.
According to the Festipedia, the NWNG railway had a bogie coach that was built in 1891 and had others built in following years.
Actually I did a bit of research of my own and found the Darjeeling Himalayan Railway inherited some 32 foot flatcars in 1940.
Spooner back in 1870s introduced them successfully on the Festinog line.The first bogie coachs were put into service on the DHR in 1909.
In the US a logging railroad constructed to the 2 foot gauge introduced them in 1877 based on the Festinog line.
Robin.
Quote from: Robin Webster on June 09, 2020, 17:46
Spooner back in 1870s introduced them successfully on the Festinog line.The first bogie coachs were put into service on the DHR in 1909.
In the US a logging railroad constructed to the 2 foot gauge introduced them in 1877 based on the Festinog line.
Robin.
I believe the US line you are referring to was a common carrier in Massachusetts, not a logging line. Most narrow gauge lines in the US were using bogies on their equipment from the beginning, excepting industrial lines.
The Denver & Rio Grande RR in Colorado (3 ft gauge) had 4 wheel equipment initially, but quickly switched to those with bogies. They even had a Double Fairlie, named Mountaineer.
Jeff S.
Yes, your right Jeff. I was confusing myself with Main.
Totally off subject. Years ago during the summer months i would camp in a lean-to in either Main, New Hampshire or Vermont. Racoons were a pain at night sniffing for food.
Robin.
The Leek & Manifold opened in 1904 exclusively with bogie stock. Calthrop's first venture into his 2'6" ideal was the Barsi Light Railway, opened 1897, again exclusively with bogie stock, all British built.
Talking about bogies, im looking for the fox pattern style for my wood and cardboard Barsi standard goods van/ box car in 009/ HOe.I can't seem to find anything on web sites. I checked out the 2mm society but found nothing there either. Perhaps my wording is wrong. So for now I'm using Micro trains arch bar trucks/ bogies.
Any help would be greatly be appreciated.
Robin.
Try Ultima- they list Fox bogies in N gauge.
https://www.ultima-models.co.uk/catalogue/comp-bogies.html (https://www.ultima-models.co.uk/catalogue/comp-bogies.html)
Thanks Steve.
It seems the other railway inspiring mine, the Eritrean railway, may not have received bogie wagons until 1966.
When considering Fox bogies, those provided on the goods stock for Barsi, Leek & Manifold, and the Victorian Railways narrow gauge were all very similar pressed steel. This blog post from Puffing Billy shows the style:
https://puffingbilly.com.au/news/workshop-blog/the-fox-bogie-revisited/
The N scale Fox bogies I can find on various online shops all seem to be passenger bogies, with leaf springs. The goods stock had a coil spring above each axle box. Very different...
Two high-sided bogie waggons Nos 88 and 105 were built at Boston Lodge for use on the FR in 1874.
For a photo search for 549 on this website:
http://www.ffwhresource.com/
Thanks for the link to that very interesting site.
Quote from: Peter Boulter on June 11, 2020, 09:46
Thanks for the link to that very interesting site.
Yes indeed, it is the entire FR heritage photo archive!
Brian Meldon
Yes, the pressed steel fox coiled spring bogie/s is what I'm looking for.( A mouth full of words) I wonder if this could be 3d printed or a brass etching made.I guess its a small market for manufactures hence it's not produced.
After all our hobby is a cottage industry.These bogies would have been produced in different lenghts depending on the railways requirement.
As i'm on this subject, does any one have drawings/ basic dimensions for these bogies. I see a small opportunity here.
I'll stop my rambling.
Robin.
I have various drawings of the VR ones. Will send you a PM
That's fantastic.
Thanks.
Quote from: Robin Webster on June 10, 2020, 10:17
Talking about bogies, im looking for the fox pattern style for my wood and cardboard Barsi standard goods van/ box car in 009/ HOe.I can't seem to find anything on web sites. I checked out the 2mm society but found nothing there either. Perhaps my wording is wrong. So for now I'm using Micro trains arch bar trucks/ bogies.
Any help would be greatly be appreciated.
Robin.
Is this what you're looking for?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49999152251_2881775c23_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jbfJ2a)001 (https://flic.kr/p/2jbfJ2a) by Mal Douglas (https://www.flickr.com/photos/maljams/), on Flickr
Mal.
Yes, exactly. Who mfgs them, and where can they be purchased from?
Thanks.
Robin.
Quote from: Robin Webster on June 13, 2020, 04:52
Yes, exactly. Who mfgs them, and where can they be purchased from?
Thanks.
Robin.
F & G Narrow Gauge Models. They're an Australian company and I'm not sure if they're still in business anymore, does anyone know?
This is the address I have: F & G Models, P. O. Box 149, Kilsyth 3137. Not sure how current it is. The kit has some lovely wheelsets.
Mal.
Quote from: WALLSHIRTS on June 13, 2020, 15:37
F & G Narrow Gauge Models. They're an Australian company and I'm not sure if they're still in business anymore, does anyone know?
This is the address I have: F & G Models, P. O. Box 149, Kilsyth 3137. Not sure how current it is. The kit has some lovely wheelsets.
Mal.
Probably made in the 1980s. Long gone, I am afraid. I think Ian Lindsay Models picked up the line. His website shows HOn30 Puffing Billy rolling stock, many of which are listed as "with whitemetal bogies, no wheel-sets" but there appear to be no bogies listed by themselves. He has recently shut down his business, although may still be filling orders for stock in hand. It might be worth contacting him. https://www.ianlindsaymodels.com/
Thank you gentlemen very much for all your help.
F&G model does not appear to exist. Ian Lindsay only sells arch bar bogies but no wheels. After an extended period on the computer searching, I found "Panamint models" by Eric Cox on Shapeways. Items on his Web site shows Fox trucks/bogies in both N and Ho scale. According to what is shown, he produces quite a selection of both coil and leaf spring types. He specialises in 19th and 20th century railroad and industrial models. He calls himself the Shapeways 'bogie man'! Umm!! Might be scary.
I've never delt with Shapeways or shape shifters before so I don't know what to expect. I will send them a message, nothing to loose in a message.
A happy Sunday to you all!
Robin.
It's amazing what's out there!
With Shapeways you can send a message to the person who did the artwork, just be aware that sometimes it can take a while for any reply to come back! I had a conversation with a lad from Finland who had made a Russian Tu4 in what he said was HO scale but when I got it turned out to be nearer OO! After a bit if chatting he rescaled it and I was happy, as was Julien who got the overscale one! He then went on to make a Tu5. You can end up with some interesting friends who you wouldn't have had without the good old 'net!
Thanks for the tip.I'll probaly forget knowing how my brain works.