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Modelling => Trackwork => Topic started by: danny on August 30, 2013, 18:45

Title: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: danny on August 30, 2013, 18:45
Does anyone have experience of using the 4-inch radius curves made by Tomix in Japan, such as rail height, what stock will go round them etc?
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: Krizzy on September 06, 2013, 12:22
Danny

Keep this thought in mind when using any track laid to a very tight radii. Small radius means small locos and small wagons. Or you may find your wagons being thrown off the track as the loco coupling swings outwards. The tightest radius I have is the old Egger set-track curves. No doubt Brian M will tell us all the exact radii of the Egger track.
Small locos like a quarry Hunslet and small wagons like the Minitrains skips or slate wagons. Personally I would not go down to 4 inch rad.

Roger
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: rod335 on September 06, 2013, 13:22
I've said this before and had invective heaped on me but whilst there is no objection on my part to small radius curves, provided appropriate stock is used. I do find L & B type stock running round 9" radius curves, 'because they will' to be offensive and ridiculous. I know the new Peco coaches have been put round 7" radius curves, I suppose that means a certain sort of person will give great whoop of glee and say 'that's what I'm going to use!' Yes, you can, but they'll look b***** awful while they do it.

Rod
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: B.Meldon on September 06, 2013, 13:24
The Egger-bahn track has a 5
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: Krizzy on September 06, 2013, 16:37
Told you so !!

Apologies, my set-track used is of the Jouef variety, not the Egger.

Roger
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: Cambridge Paul on September 07, 2013, 12:26
1) Egger steel rail set curves ~ track centre 143 mm radius
                                             ~ outer edge of sleepers 142mm
                                             ~ inner edge of sleepers  134mm

2) Tomix curves ~ think works railways and/or tramways
    Gas works
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: Tigger on September 11, 2013, 12:18
Quote from: rod335 on September 06, 2013, 13:22
I've said this before and had invective heaped on me but whilst there is no objection on my part to small radius curves, provided appropriate stock is used. I do find L & B type stock running round 9" radius curves, 'because they will' to be offensive and ridiculous. I know the new Peco coaches have been put round 7" radius curves, I suppose that means a certain sort of person will give great whoop of glee and say 'that's what I'm going to use!' Yes, you can, but they'll look b***** awful while they do it.

Rod
OOOHH!! Excellent!  I'll be able to get the new Peco coaches round the 9" curves on the L&TR!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: rod335 on September 11, 2013, 13:12
And they will look b***** awful whilst doing it! Or maybe the overhang in the centre doesn't matter to you?

Rod
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: B.Meldon on September 11, 2013, 14:25
Quote from: rod335 on September 11, 2013, 13:12
And they will look b***** awful whilst doing it! Or maybe the overhang in the centre doesn't matter to you?

Rod


Rod, are you suggesting that it would be better for David not purchase the new Peco L&B coaches or perhaps that he rips his layout apart and starts again from scratch with more generous curves?

There is no getting away from this but many of us have layouts that date back to the 1970
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: rod335 on September 11, 2013, 15:58
No Brian, I'm not suggesting either of those courses, and, indeed, I think you are being somewhat ingenuous in your question. What is done is done. What I hope will not happen is that someone coming new to 009 will see the coaches, I saw a finished production model last night and they are definitely worth the wait, and immediately go down the line of thinking '009, 6" radius curves, and this stock will ook lovely, lots of track in a tiny space." It won't look lovely and sooner or later the modeller will realise the error of his ways and either chuck it all away and start again, or chuck it all away and give it up. If my comments can possibly prevent either of those two eventualities occurring, then they will have been helpful.

Rod
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: MickT on September 11, 2013, 16:13
Quote from: B.Meldon on September 11, 2013, 14:25
................I for one hope that David does not do this with  theL&TR.

http://www.buccabury.co.uk/ltr/

Brian Meldon


However, I do hope that it is not too long before David updates his L&TR website as it is now over 3 years since the last update!!
Come on David, put those clocks and 7
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: tedp on September 11, 2013, 18:53
You can always cut a 2" section from the middle of the carriage if it won't fit...  ::)
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: rod335 on September 11, 2013, 19:15
Good one Ted! But I think you know where I'm coming from. There is a world of difference between running large stock on HIDDEN 9" (or thereabouts) curves to running them on similar curves in full view, where, as I've previously said, they look b****** awful with the huge overhang in the centre.

Rod
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: tedp on September 11, 2013, 19:50
Quote from: rod335 on September 11, 2013, 19:15
Good one Ted! But I think you know where I'm coming from. There is a world of difference between running large stock on HIDDEN 9" (or thereabouts) curves to running them on similar curves in full view, where, as I've previously said, they look b****** awful with the huge overhang in the centre.

Rod
;D ;D ;D

I thought you would bite! But I'd advise David to stick to his layout as it is, 9" curves or not. Long wheelbase stock doesn't go with many old layouts including mine. However it won't keep me from buying a few RTR L&B items.

But I fear we are hijacking Danny's thread.
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: Tigger on September 12, 2013, 12:31
*Emerges from reinforced concrete bunker to view battleground, carnage and smoking ruins*

Well, I didn't expect all that!  I think I agree with everything that's been said since my post yesterday!  Yes, they'll probably look 'orrible on the curves; no that won't stop me buying them; yes, when I photograph them I'll be careful where I do it; no, I won't be ripping up and relaying the railway; yes, I could cut a couple of compartments from the middle but then I'd have to take something off the height and width as well; and finally, Mick's absolutely right in that I haven't updated the website in three years and now I've actually got some more material I might just do that!  I haven't abandoned 009; it's just that 7
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: MickT on September 12, 2013, 21:25
Quote from: Tigger on September 12, 2013, 12:31
I haven't abandoned 009; it's just that 7
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: Tigger on September 13, 2013, 13:49
Hehehe!!! ;D

Once you've got the smell of steam, coal and hot oil in your nostrills you're hooked!
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: Hugh Norwood on September 13, 2013, 15:17
Perhaps you should try to get the makers of Lynx (or whatever) interested in it?  :D
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on September 13, 2013, 17:06
Quote from: hughn on September 13, 2013, 15:17
Perhaps you should try to get the makers of Lynx (or whatever) interested in it?  :D

Oh no! :o

If lynx has the advertised effect on nubile young ladies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzh5nBjSZfU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzh5nBjSZfU)

Then imagine effect the distilled essence of steam oil and what nature of beast it would attract. The thought of being pursued by thousands of rabid trainspotters is unlikely to appeal to anyone, male or female, of whatever persuasion....

Anyway, back on topic - anyone found some good clear photos of Tomix 4 inch curves?
Title: Re: Tomix 4-inch radius curves
Post by: Tigger on September 16, 2013, 12:42
Quote from: GraemeD on September 13, 2013, 17:06
Quote from: hughn on September 13, 2013, 15:17
Perhaps you should try to get the makers of Lynx (or whatever) interested in it?  :D

Oh no! :o

If lynx has the advertised effect on nubile young ladies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzh5nBjSZfU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzh5nBjSZfU)

Then imagine effect the distilled essence of steam oil and what nature of beast it would attract. The thought of being pursued by thousands of rabid trainspotters is unlikely to appeal to anyone, male or female, of whatever persuasion....

Thank you Gents.  It's gonna take weeks of counselling to remove the images of Lynx 'coal & oil' effects from my mind!  I'll stick with 'Africa' if you don't mind!