Judgement Day For Patrick

[B.Meldon]

Have you added the extra pick-ups on the centre axle, like you did with my 'IVO'?  :-X

In my experience in practical terms, including several experiments that we have done in the past, provided the wheels and the track are clean (as they always should be) and you have good track without any ridges kinks or bumps, then having central pickups on the Roco locos makes no significant improvement to the running of the locos.

None of my Roco HOe locos have got added pickups on the centre wheels and all run without any problems so it is just not worth the effort to fit them. But we also run 0-4-0 without any problems when others can not.

But I can not make any judgment if the wheels and the track are not kept clean or if your track has ridges or bumps in it.

By the way David I would also go for a matt finish with weathering on this loco.

Brian Meldon

[Isaac W]

But I can not make any judgment if the ... track has ridges or bumps in it.

Sadly the L&TR suffers with it's 'joints' :( so there are several humps which made IVO http://www.buccabury.co.uk//ltr/ah07.jpg stop, unless you used 'turbo power' and race across the various joints >:(.

[B.Meldon]

But I can not make any judgment if the ... track has ridges or bumps in it.

Sadly the L&TR suffers with it's 'joints' :so there are several humps which made IVO stop, unless you used 'turbo power' and race across the various joints.

Sad indeed, but unfortunatly common on 009 layouts. Perhaps a better approach would be to fix the joints? Or is the problem down to poor baseboard/trackbed design?

Brian Meldon

[Isaac W]

Sad indeed, but unfortunatly common on 009 layouts. Perhaps a better approach would be to fix the joints? Or is the problem down to poor baseboard/trackbed design?

Brian Meldon

That would be for Tigger to sort. ??? ;D

(Ducks for cover) :-[

[tedp]

Looking good, David. Much better than the original!

[Tigger]

Thanks Ted!  I'm pleased with the look.

As for the centre axle Mr Watt, er - no!  I looked at it and decided there wasn't room!  I'd forgotten about 'IVO'.  If I'm able to take a look at 'IVO' I might remember how I did it!  I'm actually quite disappointed with Roco for not putting that rather major failing right with either of their locos.

Yes Brian, I admit it - as Isaac says the L&TR does indeed suffer from rough (rushed) trackbuilding at the outset and probably some degradation in and movement of the boards over the last 37 years! :( It would be for the best if I ripped bits of it up and replaced it but that would mean disrupting services and I just don't fancy doing that now I've finally got some enthusiasm back.

No 33 received its new name last night and its matt topcoat this evening (is it bad luck to change the lame of a loco or is that only ships?).  Not too far to go now!  I filed up five spectacle glasses last night ready for fitting!

[Tigger]

Not quite finished but enough for a test run so here's the new diesel on a train of 16 loaded skips crossing the old drover's road on the first run on the layout - the first new loco I've finished for the railway for many a year and sporting a new name.

In a fashion similar to the Ashover, this is named after the three children of the quarry owner so no 33 has gone onto the L&TR books as "Timotheus Iorwerth Megan".  There wasn't room for all that lot on the cabside so it's shortened to T.I.M.  (Lettering from the Pressfix Pullman sheet and I know the T isn't quite straight, dammit!  It's done the same on the other side as well!)

[MickT]

Splendid David. Don't forget the driver.............. ;)

Mick

[invercloy]

That's made into a very neat conversion, David.  I like it a lot.

[Tigger]

Many thanks Gentlemen for your kind comments.  I have to admit that I'm pleased with everything except the paint finish.

Mick, I have a couple of figures which are being worked on to make a driver!

Tom - I need a pair of Hunslet maker's plates, does Narrow Planet do them?

Cornelius, the width over cab sides is a mere 21mm (23mm over roof); cab front sheet to back is 26mm; height footplate to eves is 22mm and to top of roof arc is 24mm.  The basic height and width dimensions were matched to the Roco cab to keep the proportions about right.

There are one or two finishing touches yet - lamp brackets, cab roof underside still needs painting black outside the cab and cream inside and at the Ally Pally show yesterday I picked up a sheet of Archer resin rivets from 3D so to see what they're like I might apply some to the buffer beams.  When I've done all that, either before or after I weather the loco, I'll take a maker's photo outside the works.

Also, Isaac brought his Roco down to Ally Pally yesterday so I could take a look at how I fitted the centre axle pick-ups to it so that's another little improvement I can do.

The colour isn't quite right and doesn't quite match the other L&TR locos so I picked up a tin of Phoenix Precision P30 LMS Crimson Lake which more closely matches the old Humbrol HR114 which I used on the other L&TR red locos.

The shocking paint finish has reminded me why I started to use an airbrush (compare with the absolutely gorgeous airbrushed finish I got on 'Sir Theodore' on my first attempt at airbrushing here... http://www.buccabury.co.uk/ltr/loco-no25-sir-theodore.jpg) so also at Ally Pally I bought an AS 196-A compressor; when I get around to working on the Port class Hunslet I'll be using that!

Finally, if I make it to Sparsholt I'll surely bring TIM with me.  What an amazing coincidence - the acronym of the three children just happens to spell the name of the friend who took those superb photos for the Modeller last year...

[invercloy]

Tom - I need a pair of Hunslet maker's plates, does Narrow Planet do them?

Narrow Planet can do any plates you want ;)

[Tigger]

Many thanks for the offer Cornelius but the whole idea was to name it Tim becuase of part Tim Easter played last year in re-vitalising my interest in 009 modelling.  As Tim wouldn't have been a common name in 1950s North Wales I then had to contrive a reason to have those letters on the side of the loco!  (So it was back to my book on Welsh names for children which I picked up for the purpose years ago!)  I do appreciate the offer though!  Does that make sense?  Hope you understand!

As for Hunslet plates, to save you any work, can we first please see what Narrow Planet has in the 'off-the-shelf' range?

Tom, the Narrow Planet 'off-the-shelf' range isn't on the website so could you please find out what might be available in 4mm for a Hunslet diesel plate around the late 1940s?  (And if the date can be read, no later than 1952!! - that's why I couldn't fit the Hunslet plate on the Dundas Sierra Leone loco - the etching was so good you can read the date!!)

No photo but cab roof now painted as per my last post and lamp brackets now fitted which effectively means the loco is ready for service (and had another trial run yesterday with the cab roof possibly still damp!)

Just needs an attempt at getting rivets on and a bit of weathering now!

[Tigger]

Many thanks Cornelius - I'll be in touch on a PM or something! :)

[Tigger]

This'll be my last posting on Patrik folks!  Finished apart from weathering, T.I.M. was in revenue service for the first time yesterday evening on a down slate train and is seen here leaving Rhyffedd Coed approaching the level crossing on the slight rise up to the bridge over the Nant Ffernol.  (Yes, I know there's no driver yet Mick - I haven't finished painting him! ;D )
The second photo is just for the record and for comparison really, and shows T.I.M. nose-to-snout with her diesellian predecessor, no 10, my original 1976-vintage Roco which expired in 1988.  None of the Roco machines was ever named and only had numbers for identification so it's fitting that the first new loco I've personally put into service since "Owen" (in February 1992, twenty years ago, good grief!!) has broken the mould.

[CharlieI]

Very very nice work David, and very Hudswell or Hunslet in character.  If you fancy another variant of this, I did one a few years back very similar to yours, but I extended the frames out the front and added a front mounted gearbox, a la Moelwyn, some early Fowlers and early Hudwells.

Cheers,

Charlie I