Pirlouit’s H0e/009 locomotives Egger-Bahn.

[Pirlouit]

Hello everyone.
I'm going to introduce you to my narrow gauge locos.

Let's start with the Egger-Bahn.

1° A small wildwest style locomotive.





2° A small articulated railcar.
I also have one without a motor.





3° A small two-cabin.





See you soon for the presentation of my Liliput locos.

[B.Meldon]

Let's start with the Egger-Bahn.

1° A small wildwest style locomotive.

Your Egger Western loco is quite an unusual example. It is onle of the 1980's made examples, there is nouthing unusual about that, however it is one of only a few that were made with the wrong colour darker green plastic cab section.
It should have the same lighter colour plastic as the tender.
This was an error in production.

[B.Meldon]

3° A small two-cabin.

These are two locos!!
The one in the box is one of the 1980's versions made in France by Jouef, it has the later chassis, a diferent shape bell, plastic hand rails, a solid cast chimney and reflective gold numbers.

The one in the lower photo is an earlier example made in the 1960's in Germany. It has the earlier shape bell, the dull paint block applied numbers, metal hand rail and the small square coupling head that was made up to 1965. However it has the chassis with the Minitrix type motor made from 1965 to 1968. It could be a 1965 example, but my guess would be that the original chassis has been changed at some time for the later type with the Minitrix motor.

[B.Meldon]

2° A small articulated railcar.
I also have one without a motor.

This is a 1980's Jouef French made example of the Egger railcar.
I have no idea why Jouef made all these with a red front headlight, but all the 1980's made railcars have this feature. (When they were made in Germany before 1968 they also had a larger brass bell.)

[Pirlouit]

3° A small two-cabin.

These are two locos!!
The one in the box is one of the 1980's versions made in France by Jouef, it has the later chassis, a diferent shape bell, plastic hand rails, a solid cast chimney and reflective gold numbers.

The one in the lower photo is an earlier example made in the 1960's in Germany. It has the earlier shape bell, the dull paint block applied numbers, metal hand rail and the small square coupling head that was made up to 1965. However it has the chassis with the Minitrix type motor made from 1965 to 1968. It could be a 1965 example, but my guess would be that the original chassis has been changed at some time for the later type with the Minitrix motor.

Hello Brian.
Thanks a lot for all these informations.
But I don't have 2 locomotives. I bought second hand and the loco was delivered in this box.
A connoisseur in France, editor of a French magazine on narrow gauge, had already told me that the locomotive did not match the box and that I had a little beauty. And above all, I had to take care of it.

[B.Meldon]

3° A small two-cabin.

These are two locos!!
The one in the box is one of the 1980's versions made in France by Jouef, it has the later chassis, a diferent shape bell, plastic hand rails, a solid cast chimney and reflective gold numbers.

The one in the lower photo is an earlier example made in the 1960's in Germany. It has the earlier shape bell, the dull paint block applied numbers, metal hand rail and the small square coupling head that was made up to 1965. However it has the chassis with the Minitrix type motor made from 1965 to 1968. It could be a 1965 example, but my guess would be that the original chassis has been changed at some time for the later type with the Minitrix motor.

Hello Brian.
Thanks a lot for all these informations.
But I don't have 2 locomotives. I bought second hand and the loco was delivered in this box.
A connoisseur in France, editor of a French magazine on narrow gauge, had already told me that the locomotive did not match the box and that I had a little beauty. And above all, I had to take care of it.

The loco that can be seen in the photo of the box is the correct one for that box. These later 1980's versions of the Egger locos do tend to run better than the 1960's ones. The chassis also last longer in use. The 1960's ones do tend to ware out quite quickly with use.
So the loco you have will not last as long or run as well as the one that can be seen in the box!!

The version you have of the 1960's tram loco is not that unusual. As I mentioned I suspect that someone has changged the chassis as it is a pre-1965 body with a 1965-1968 chassis.

You can read all about the Egger-bahn range in the 009 News articles that started about 10 years ago.
The back issues are all available in the members section of the 009 Society web site.
The tram loco article was in the March 2015 009 news.
 They area also available, but with poor quality phhotos on-line via this link, the section about the tram loco is about 1/2 way down the web page:

http://www.egger-bahn.nl/egger%20009%20soc%2050%20jaar.html

[Peter Boulter]

I've got the railcar, but sadly it no longer runs.
I've also got the body shell of the little tram. I've no idea what happened to the motor and one day I'll get round to fitting a replacement motor.

[Pirlouit]

Hello Brian.
Thanks again for all the information. But I assure you that it is the same locomotive in both photos.
Here are some more photos.

[B.Meldon]

Hello Brian.
Thanks again for all the information. But I assure you that it is the same locomotive in both photos.
Here are some more photos.

Look at the shape of the brass bell on the roof and also look at the motor visiable in the cab.

The loco in the top photo has a small brass bell and the 1980's skew wound Mabuchi motor.

The loco in the other photos has the larger brass bell and the Minitrix motor that was used from 1965 to 1968.
The loco in the lower photos also has the metal hand rails used up to 1972 and the small coupling head that was used up to 1965.

None of the 1980's tram locos had the metal hand rails, they were all made with the plastic handrails moulded in with the body a larger coupling head and a lighter green plastic that does not show up in photos.
It is not the right loco for the 1980's box.

If the first photo was in the advert for this loco then whoever sold this to you changed the loco over in the box after the photo was taken and before they sold it to you. The other option is that someone else has swapped the loco after you got it.

Your loco in the lower photos is a 1960's example with the small coupling head made up to 1965 but the Minitrix chassis with the cast metal chassis block that was made in 1967 and early 1968. So the date of the body and the chassis do not match, at some time the chassis has been changed so it is not in original condition.

[Pirlouit]

Hello Brian,
You are absolutely right.
I remember using the photos from the ad for the ones in the box.
I had forgotten.
I took new photos and we can clearly see that they are not the same boxes.

Old:


New:


We immediately notice that they are not the same.
The seller did not send me the right box.

Old:


New:


It looks like in the old photos, it's not the right box.

Here is the reference for my box:


A little video:

To summarize, I have a 1965 locomotive with a 1968 engine chassis.
Which doesn't match the box at all.
I got scammed.

If I decided to change the engine, what would you recommend?

Thank you again for all your explanations.
I started reading the articles you wrote.
It's going to take me a while because I've forgotten a lot of the English I learned at school.

[B.Meldon]

 What is the problem with the Egger railcar?
Is it the one in the photo?
Common problems are missing gears, bent electrical contacts and the fixing hole in the body not holding the chassis together.
It is unusual for these later 1980's motors to fail, but if they do replacements are usually available from China on e-bay.
This same skew wound Mabuchi motor was used in the Big City Hobbies/New Minitrains Plymouth and Baldwin Chinese copies that were available about 10 years ago now.

[Pirlouit]

Hello Brian, there is no problem.
It drives very well.
I was asking the question for information purposes.

[B.Meldon]

I've got the railcar, but sadly it no longer runs.
I've also got the body shell of the little tram. I've no idea what happened to the motor and one day I'll get round to fitting a replacement motor.

The railcar question should have been to Peter!!