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Chris Ward 009 Baldwin

Started by Brian Mosby, October 12, 2014, 13:05

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B.Meldon

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Quote from: JulienW on October 21, 2014, 09:59
You may have already had this thought (sorry if you have) but it might be worthwhile to do something about the gap between the front of the Farish chassis and the Baldwin's cylinders, as on the real loco this space would be filled with the loco frames (bar frames were used on the WD Baldwins afaik).

I wonder if that's why the smoke box is sitting low, as the frames would extend to the front buffer beam and provide a bit of depth between the underside of the front footplate and the topside of the bogie that currently is not there.

Well Julien there is actually quite a big empty gap on the prototype behind the cylinders!

The top of the bar frames are below the level of the top of the driving wheels (the spring hangers are slightly above) and the frames then thin more between the front driving wheel and the cylinder casting. The end result is that you can see quite a lot of daylight through the loco behind the cylinders under the boiler.

There is another large visible gap below the boiler between the tanks and the cab. but this is where the GF motor is on this model.

Brian Meldon
Brian Meldon

Brian Mosby

#16
Quote from: JulienW on October 21, 2014, 09:59
You may have already had this thought (sorry if you have) but it might be worthwhile to do something about the gap between the front of the Farish chassis and the Baldwin's cylinders, as on the real loco this space would be filled with the loco frames (bar frames were used on the WD Baldwins afaik).

I wonder if that's why the smoke box is sitting low, as the frames would extend to the front buffer beam and provide a bit of depth between the underside of the front footplate and the topside of the bogie that currently is not there.

once i have the powered chassis i will be filling the gap

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looking at drawings there is a gap there  as Brian says there should be a gap from the Cylinders to the cab under the boiler

Brian Mosby

Quote from: Elmgate on October 21, 2014, 10:09
Julien,

What is missing, is the cylinder moulding, which will fill this area. I recall that Brian is using the RT resin ones, with the "working" valve gear, so this is yet to come. You are correct that the cylinders will help set the height of the front.

you only use the etch from RT models not the cast replacment cylinders for the Gem loco

Brian Mosby

its getting on to 3 months since i have done anything to this loco as payed work & me putting of working on the valvegear has got in the way but i am today trying to rivit the valvegear togetter

Brian Mosby

#19
after rushing once i got home yestoday things went to pot so gave in for the night


But Today i have got it all finished Still need to fill the tanks with Liquid lead but do not have any

001 by Mozzer models, on Flickr


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tedp

Well done, Brian - the valve gear looks good, and have you straightened the cab roof or am I mistaken? Nice finish too.
Ted Polet

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Brian Mosby

Quote from: tedp on January 11, 2015, 17:37
Well done, Brian - the valve gear looks good, and have you straightened the cab roof or am I mistaken? Nice finish too.

No the cab has less of a kink in it as have been slowly bending it back in to shape

Just need the Liquid lead to arrive so i can add weight

Brian Mosby

I have done some weathering to the loco & picked out the vac pipes etc

001 by Mozzer models, on Flickr

Harry Mantheakis

Hello Brian, your Baldwin looks really good.

I have not yet attempted any loco kits, and would like to ask: does the valve gear (which is so impressive) come pre-assembled?

And how do you fix the valve gear to the GF?
Harry (H0e)
Mem No: 6429
London

Brian Mosby

Quote from: Harry Mantheakis on January 14, 2015, 13:22
Hello Brian, your Baldwin looks really good.

I have not yet attempted any loco kits, and would like to ask: does the valve gear (which is so impressive) come pre-assembled?

And how do you fix the valve gear to the GF?


the valve gear for this loco neesd riveting togetter which is just hitting the rivits with a small hammer a bit at a time till there is movment on the riveit but the rivit will not fall out

As to the way it attaches to the GF chassis it uses the same pin that holds the GF rods on to the center wheel  which you remove before soldering the valve link to then just push it back in

Harry Mantheakis

Quote from: Mozzer on January 14, 2015, 13:41
the valve gear for this loco neesd riveting togetter which is just hitting the rivits with a small hammer a bit at a time till there is movment on the riveit but the rivit will not fall out

As to the way it attaches to the GF chassis it uses the same pin that holds the GF rods on to the center wheel  which you remove before soldering the valve link to then just push it back in

Woo... the riveting does not sound like something a novice should attempt - but thank you for the explanation.
Harry (H0e)
Mem No: 6429
London

Brian Mosby

Quote from: Harry Mantheakis on January 14, 2015, 13:52
Quote from: Mozzer on January 14, 2015, 13:41
the valve gear for this loco neesd riveting togetter which is just hitting the rivits with a small hammer a bit at a time till there is movment on the riveit but the rivit will not fall out

As to the way it attaches to the GF chassis it uses the same pin that holds the GF rods on to the center wheel  which you remove before soldering the valve link to then just push it back in

Woo... the riveting does not sound like something a novice should attempt - but thank you for the explanation.

with the rivets from RT Models its very eazy  sound a lot harder than it is

Harry Mantheakis

Thanks Brian - I might give it a try then!
Harry (H0e)
Mem No: 6429
London


Harry Mantheakis

It is a very attractive loco.
Harry (H0e)
Mem No: 6429
London