Hello
It's true; seen today at Warley - ready-to-run L&B wagons and coaches in 00-9. :o
Samples on the PECO stand of L&B coach, brake, open wagon, and closed wagon .
See
http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=009wagon (http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=009wagon)
and the other place for photos.
Lovely L&B layouts at Warley too. I particularly liked the big model of LYD. ;D
They look very good indeed! I do hope Peco have plans to sell unlettered versions of the goods stock too (or the paint comes off easily) as they will no doubt end up on umpteen freelance layouts. I could live with traces of the old lettering - it would explain where the company bought their second hand stock. ;D
Quote from: GraemeD on November 25, 2012, 10:01
They look very good indeed! I do hope Peco have plans to sell unlettered versions of the goods stock too (or the paint comes off easily) as they will no doubt end up on umpteen freelance layouts. I could live with traces of the old lettering - it would explain where the company bought their second hand stock. ;D
There appears to be
four versions of each of the van and open wagon ( despite posters on other forums stating there to be three) :-
1. Grey livery, lettered L&B.
2. Grey livery, no lettering.
3. Brown livery, lettered SR.
4. Brown livery, no lettering.
Quote from: garrywhiting on November 25, 2012, 12:49
There appears to be four versions of each of the van and open wagon ( despite posters on other forums stating there to be three) :-
1. Grey livery, lettered L&B.
2. Grey livery, no lettering.
3. Brown livery, lettered SR.
4. Brown livery, no lettering.
Excellent news! Just what I was hoping. Thanks Garry.
Visible in the PECO display case at Warley on Sunday were -
2 side hinged centre door 4 wheel open wagon in L&BR grey with different running numbers
2 side hinged centre door 4 wheel open wagon in SR brown with different running numbers
2 4 wheel vans in L&BR grey with different running numbers
2 4 wheel vans in SR brown with different running numbers
1 4 wheel open in plain grey
1 4 wheel van in brown
Printed images of a L&BR style bogie coach and L&BR style bogie brake coach - these appeared to be shots of models at an early mock up stage and were finished in plain green
If we count different running numbers then the list of variants grows
Bob
The new PECO stock looks lovely. They will all be available in unlettered versions including the coaches. The wagons should be available quite soon after Christmas and the coaches as soon as possible afterwards. It looks like the wagons will come in boxes with a closed and an open in each.
The chassis can't work on their own as they need the body to complete the axle box. However, the possibility of a flat wagon would be a useful base for a scratch build. The couplings are all new, all plastic and fit in NEM pockets both of which may be available seperately later. Apparently they work very well and don't suffer from the usual jamming and locking when propelled. David, the designer told me that he has propelled them round 4" curves with no problem.
PECO must be congratulated for taking this step and there was also much informed speculation about a Manning Wardle to suit if all goes well. One thing at a time though. I think the answer is buy these and they will see the demand for a loco is there.
They also have a nice new IoMR book with another in preparation.
John W
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The news gets better every day!
Any word about prices? (I hope that's not the fly in the ointment.)
I hear prices will still have to be finalised.
The stock certainly looks nice - I could use a few on my demo layout, Nixnie. Excellent move by Peco. It will lower the entry level into 009 for new modellers.
I gather that they are hoping wagons about
Great news.
This could start a renaissance for 009!
Quote from: rhydddu009 on November 27, 2012, 11:15
Great news.
This could start a renaissance for 009!
Intresting comment Colin.
Exactly what period I the past 50 odd years of 009 would you like it to be a
Quote from: B.Meldon on November 27, 2012, 12:16
Quote from: rhydddu009 on November 27, 2012, 11:15
Great news.
This could start a renaissance for 009!
Intresting comment Colin.
Exactly what period I the past 50 odd years of 009 would you like it to be a
The couplings look interesting - a bit like Kadees. I wonder how they will couple to current locos that have a mix of Bemo/Greenwich etc. Will we need to convert our locos ?
Bob B.
The coupling situation is indeed an interesting one.
The existing Peco 009 couplings are not fully compatible with the Egger/Bemo type. Basically the distance from the coupling face to the back of the pin is often too long to allow the loop from the Egger/Bemo type couplings to drop over the Peco pin. However it only takes a small adjustment to make the Peco 009 couplings work with all the others so it is not too bad.
It does however look like the new Peco OO-9 wagons have a smaller pin so they will probably be ok in this respect. They also look like they will be ramp uncoupled like the Egger/Bemo type, but then I suppose they would be as Peco make the uncoupling ramps. One other thing I have noticed about the couplings is that they look to me like they have plastic loops. This may make them cheaper than the others available, but it may well also make them more susceptible to permanent damage. Often the pressed steel or wire coupling loops can be bent back in to shape when damaged. Plastic will just snap, but I suppose it all depends on what plastic is used.
Brian Meldon
The plastic used for the loops looks to be very robust. I believe they have been designed to be as retro compatible as possible. Will be a happy day when they become available as a separate item.
I laid awake last night thinking about the PECO bashing possibilities to come.... :D
John W
Quote from: Isle of Stoner on November 27, 2012, 21:35
The plastic used for the loops looks to be very robust. I believe they have been designed to be as retro compatible as possible. Will be a happy day when they become available as a separate item.
I laid awake last night thinking about the PECO bashing possibilities to come.... :D
John W
John - That is IMMENSELY sad!!
Simon
I know :-[
John
I managed to pick up two packs of the L&B liveried Peco wagons at Narrow Gauge South West this weekend just gone, and had them in operation along with some my friend Steve bought as well.
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They really are superb, they run well, are crisply detailed and the finish on the lettering is great. Parkside easily sold out of them apparently!
Two prototype coaches were also doing the rounds, and one of these had a run on Isle Ornsay at a quiet moment.
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Relative to one of my ratiobashes.
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On the pier with one of the wagons and an Roco HOe Feldbahn conversion. The coaches are great, nicely detailed, crisply moulded and can negotiate 8" rad. curves. They are going to look great in L&B livery especially!
I can't wait for the coaches, they look superb and just what the IoSR needs to go with the VoR bashes.
We have wagons on order at work and so should have availability very soon... less my sets. ;)
John W
Stan Williams and I had a complete ready-to-run train of the new Peco wagons pulled by one of the small Liliput diesels running up and down 'Crummack' for most of the three days of Model Rail Scotland at the Glasgow SECC. The only problem we had with them was due to an expanding rail at Moughton causing an occasional derailment until fixed on the third day. They behaved fine when Michael Pritchard of Peco chatted with us on the Sunday. The coaches running on the Peco stand look really good. M P said they had been sprayed grey and one brown prior to the show. Talking to the Heljan crowd on Sunday they showed commitment by buying a copy of the 'L&B Measured and Drawn' book.
Roger
A little bird has told me Peco have begun production of one of the coaches in SR livery.
Roger
David Malton (Vulcan) announced it a few days ago on the NGRM-Online forum Roger. First to be released and in the process of distribution to the trade is the passenger coach in SR green, with the brake coach to follow. L&BR liveried coaches not yet ready.
Mick
Any idea about the price of the coaches? Might be an idea for the L&TR to have its own L&B heritage train...
That'll do!
Many thanks; I'll get saving! No point in buying more than four - I've only got one L&B loco at the moment! As it's Lew I guess it'll have to be the SR green coaches.
Hmmmm..
SR - Sto Plains Railway?
or L&B - Lancre and Bad Ass?
Like it Hugh!! ;D
Anything suitable for L&TR?
Lancre & Tsort Railway maybe? ;D
the turtle moves...
Finally we have Composite coaches in stock, lovely they are too.
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John W
My word they do look nice!
Frank