Those adherents to strict prototype and rivet counting, look away now, this is not for you.
But if occasionally you can enjoy a bit of whimsy, you could do no better than to check out Chris Ward's latest offering, in 3D printing, a Mini Double Fairlie with tramway style side plates, since it is designed to use the Kato "shorty" bogie chassis ( either Kato 11-105 or 11-107, they only differ in the bogie sideframes ).
Go to www.chrisjward.co.uk to view.
Mine arrived this morning, just in time to take to the York exhibition this Easter, I shall have it with me on the 009 Society stand, this year on the ground floor opposite the main stairs to the mezzanines and two upper floors. Come along and say hello.
Hi Garry,
Those look Fairlie good (I couldn't resist).
Is there any indicator of price ?
Also ... I wonder how much work there would be in removing the "tram" plates and adding motion to the bogie ... ?
Stuart
Quote from: Bassendale on April 05, 2012, 12:37
Hi Garry,
Those look Fairlie good (I couldn't resist).
Is there any indicator of price ?
I would guess that if someone got a couple of N-drive chassis (say) and fixed them together, then Chris could devise a fairlie body to go on top?
I expect it could be turned into a nice little model with a bit of rubbing down and super detailing. The Fairlie patent wasn't restricted to the FR engines - there were many Farlies at work all over the world. I know of one class of tramway type Fairlie on a metre gauge line in Saxony. These looked quite different, of course.
http://www.drehscheibe-foren.de/foren/read.php?17,3675916,page=all (http://www.drehscheibe-foren.de/foren/read.php?17,3675916,page=all)
Quote from: hughn on April 05, 2012, 20:40
I would guess that if someone got a couple of N-drive chassis (say) and fixed them together, then Chris could devise a fairlie body to go on top?
Having seen one at first hand at the last M5-M50-NGM meeting it would need to be quite a bit bigger to fit anything other than the Kato shorty. But if someone were to sort out a pair of N-drives on a frame then I'm sure that Chris could work something out. The other thought for a chassis would be Hollywood Foundry (BullAnt) which may allow the bogies to be closer together than on a pair of N-drives where the motors would need to be fitted in.
I must say though that when I saw Chris' Fairlie it reminded me of the locos sent to South America, and made a nice change from the usual FfART (Ffestinog Area Rapid Transit) version.
I liked it so much I've ordered 10 for the FR shop! Watch this space.
John W
Quote from: JulienW on April 06, 2012, 09:43
I must say though that when I saw Chris' Fairlie it reminded me of the locos sent to South America, and made a nice change from the usual FfART (Ffestinog Area Rapid Transit) version.
I Just LOVE that acronym!!! ;D ;D ;D
As they are the same size ,you might be better fitting the bandai chassis as it is 8 wheel drive under this body,as with a double engine you would expect this to have some pulling power.
Just a point to note though, although the Bandai chassis is the same overall size as the Kato ones, the truck wheelbase is much longer and so the inner pair of axles are much closer together and they swing out more on curves. Looking at the design of the loco they could very well end up in the cab !
Hoping to have ours in the shop this coming week so I'll keep you posted as one of them is destined for the IoSR.
John W
They arrived today and they are cracking. I started adding bits and bobs to my one tonight, I'll post some pictures when I have some to hand.
They are available from the F&WHR webshop for
I've added some detailing to mine and given it a bit of a smooth off. I think once painted it will be fine.
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John W
Interesting John! Looks a bit like a Varikit that has been posed in front of a mirror ;D
Where did you get, or what make are the (whitemetal?) England style sand pots/pedestal ashtrays/narrow dustbins ?
Mick
Hi
They are from the Langley Fairlie kit. I've painted it with acrylics (snot green) and it looks great. Pics to follow.
John W
Quote from: Isle of Stoner on April 20, 2012, 08:39
They are from the Langley Fairlie kit.
John W
When fitting out my second Windle "Mexican" Double Fairlie, I found four of these sandpots in my bits box. I guess that some time ago I purchased them from the Langley stand at a model railway show. Langley often had a couple of rummage trays of various white metal castings on their stand. I don't know if they still do, not looked at their stand at shows for a couple of years now.
They still do Garry - I picked up a couple of 6-cylinder engine blocks (hopefully they look enough like Gardener diesels) at the Leamington show in January. Can be a bit of a scrum though...
Well, I've spent the day adding handrails and details and giving it a second coat of paint and apart from plates it is as finished as I can get it. I also put some spare bits of whitemetal in the smokeboxes to add weight, it runs really nicely.
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The only place where the 3D printingness shows up is on the domes but from an operating distance it looks fine to my, admitedly wooly, eyesight.
John W
Very "sweet"! It has echoes of the Kato shorty trains (or am I saying the wrong thing here and it is intended to be a serious Fairlie :-[
However you look at it its a toy train. It's as serious as any of my other models. It isn't prototype specific but there is no reason why a little one could be built.
John W ;D
That's a very cute loco - am I right in thinking it's of fairly small proportions? I.E Original Ffestiniog/vari-kit loading gauge ?
Tebee,
Look here:
http://www.kato-unitrack.co.uk/kato-11-105-shorty-chassis-unit-1969-0.html (http://www.kato-unitrack.co.uk/kato-11-105-shorty-chassis-unit-1969-0.html)
http://www.chrisjward.co.uk/ (http://www.chrisjward.co.uk/)
I guess about 60 mm long.
It's 73mm over the buffer beams, about 35mm above rail level. Cute is the word.
John W
Hi Mick,
Quote from: MickT on April 19, 2012, 16:11
Interesting John! Looks a bit like a Varikit that has been posed in front of a mirror ;D
Where did you get, or what make are the (whitemetal?) England style sand pots/pedestal ashtrays/narrow dustbins ?
Mick
The pots are available seperately from Langley. I needed a pair for another project so I contacted Ian directly and hopefully some are on their way.
However, I love Johns additions to his Fairlie, I wish one could buy the contents of these "bits boxes" people keep quoting
also I don't have a crimson engine and fathers days is approaching ...
Regards
Stuart
Quote from: garrywhiting on April 20, 2012, 09:58
Langley often had a couple of rummage trays of various white metal castings on their stand. I don't know if they still do, not looked at their stand at shows for a couple of years now.
Those rummage trays are excellent sources of loads for wagons. Well worth getting there early or fighting through the scrum!
Perhaps Chris Ward could print the pots on the model?? :) Nice work John.
I'd really love to see a photograph of this model on a layout, rather than the "works" snap. ;D
Hi
The V2 version actually now has sandpots, tool boxes and coal bunkers as part of it. I'll take a picture and upload it.
Also if you have a look at my blog at isleofstoner.blogspot.co.uk you find a couple of pictures of mine on Underhill on the entry for 26th April. I'll try to get some better ones over the weekend.
John W
I bought a "Growler" diesel from Chris. He made a small change to the design for me. I think it must be one of his standard variations - open side frames rather than tram skirts. I'm sure in time he will accumulate a range of variations.
If only there was an inexpensive steam chassis on a par with the Kato tram. The possibilities for a 3D "varikit" could be endless!
I like the first fairlie I did so much that I'm doing a second one without a cab roof.
Details and pictures on my blog http://isleofstoner.blogspot.co.uk/
Here in FR shop land I've just ordered the 3rd batch of 10 of these as they are being very popular, I've also ordered a selection of his other locos which I hope will also be as popular.
John W
Really love the work you're doing with these John.
Anyone got the 2-6-2 Hunslet? I quite like the look of them but am a little wary due to availability/quality of the Grafar Prarie chassis...
I received my Fairlie from Chris Ward the day before yesterday. It looks very good, but I have had to put it to one side as too much to do at the moment
Here we are fresh from the paint shop....
Looks good, there attractive little locos
Nice looking loco, the blue suits her.
John W