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Modelling => Layouts => Topic started by: pilotfriend on February 21, 2012, 08:43

Title: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 21, 2012, 08:43
Seeing that Tigger has requested that his photothread be locked, I thought it might be the right time to launch this new thread where I hope that Tigger (along with everybody else) will contribute as well! A slight difference for this thread though. Post a photo and then explain why you particularly like it. This may throw up useful ideas on composition of the subject, both of the layout and photography.

rules

1. any 009/H0e layout (not necessarily your own) can be posted
2. if not your photo, please give credit
3. any comments on Welsh grammer will result in the miscreant being forced to model 2ft gauge trains in T scale.



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A view looking up the driveway of the Glenthorne Hotel. I always believe that model railways should live in a landscape. This shot, horror upon horror, does not have a train in it!  I feel it is typical of a holiday snap taken by someone lucky enough to have stayed there. The open gates lead the eye to the building behind and the garden wall with closed gate. What lies the other side, I wonder?
Taken with low res early digital camera.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Mike Griff on February 21, 2012, 17:42
A well modeled scene, the shading on the clouds is great, is it hand painted? Mike
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Hobby on February 21, 2012, 17:59
I'll get in quick before he spots it... They are photos... See here how they are done!

http://www.009.cd2.com/members/how_to/backdrops.htm
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 21, 2012, 19:53
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This is a tiny part of the East German R
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on February 21, 2012, 20:34
Splendid idea John, and an excellent view of the Hotel.  Real bit of country class.

If I may join in your thread...

Many years ago I saw a photo somewhere of the Talyllyn Railway in earlier days and one day when using the good old Canon A1 with a roll of Ilford FP4 (one of the best 35mm roll-films ever created in my opinion) I tried to emulate that photo.  The original showed Talyllyn but at the time the only loco I had available was Dolgoch.  The result however, was one of the best photos I've ever taken and has appeared in both the 009 News and the Model Railway Club Bulletin, as well as on the web.  When Tim Easter and I were on the photoshoot for the Modeller last year we took the opportunity to copy the shot with Tim's excellent professional camera but of course this time we were able to do the same shot with both Dolgoch and Talyllyn.  My original and Tim's reproduction really demonstrate what, to me, 009 modelling is all about - showing the train in the landscape.  I've removed the colour from this version and anyone with a copy of the excellent Boyd/Wild Swan book on the Talyllyn might like to turn to page 130 to compare it with the original photo.  PLEASE NOTE that this photo is Copyright Peco/Tim Easter and is used here with their permission.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 21, 2012, 21:05
That shot has always been my favourite of your railway. The train is just in the right place and the track leads the eye to the bridge. So evocative.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on February 22, 2012, 07:53
Thanks John.  As with most of my favourite photos, my original was a "let's just see if I can get this".  With Tim's version we reproduced the lighting pretty well because I always used to make notes of camera and light positions and height, distances from subject, focal point etc.  Whereas mine sort of disappears into the distance, Tim's has far more definition.  also, because I only finished the river surface last year for the shoot the water does at least sparkle a bit now!
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: JulienW on February 22, 2012, 09:53
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A shot of Andy Cundick's "Letterkenny" taken by me one of the times I operated the layout and a fine example of Irish (as opposed to "Oirish") narrow gauge.

I used a pocket camera to aplogies for the lack of depth of field, etc., etc.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 22, 2012, 09:56
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This is a silly one. With the East Lyn viaduct just visible, it reminds me of my attempts at taking a photograph of Glanrafon viaduct (WHR) during the overgrown years. I was being chased by a mad Welsh farmer who felt that I should not be rambling in the undergrowth!
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on February 22, 2012, 12:09
Superb piece of modelling John and a very good photo.  It reminds me that somewhere I have a Griffon Vulture ready to fly over the L&TR!  By 'eck they're big creatures!
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on February 23, 2012, 07:59
Cornelius -

Nice focussing on the Fairlie and nice lighting on Castle Rock.  Most of the photos I take on my layout are with the Canon Ixus because it's convenient but sadly I'm stuck with whatever focal point it feels like!  Sometimes I can fool it or 'encourage' it to focus where I want, sometimes it gets it right but sometimes it beats me!  If I'm taking some serious photos I'll use the Canon 300D with its f36 setting and manual focus.  (The whole idea of using the Ixus during running sessions was so that I could record good views and reproduce them at a later date with the 300D.  The flaw in that is, of course, that the 'later date' never happens!)
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Mike Griff on February 23, 2012, 11:32
Love those shots of Henks work, The lighting of the water is really evocative, and the harbour or river wall is great. Mike
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: B.Meldon on February 23, 2012, 11:49

Here are some of my photos of 009 layouts that I like, why is a bit more difficult to explain!

First John Lee
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: invercloy on February 23, 2012, 16:53
Good idea for a thread, John.

Here are few of my favourites;

Martin Collins' Llandecwyn

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Yes, John, those are made from Ratio sides  ;D

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Still a work in progress, but has a LOT of potential to be a super layout.

Charlie Insley's St. Etienne-en-Caux

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Moors End by Reinier Hendriksen

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Glenclachan viaduct by a certain Mr. Polet

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and finally my favourite shot of one of my own layouts (if I may).

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Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 23, 2012, 16:55
Lovely shots but please only 009 or H0e.
JdF
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 23, 2012, 17:17
Shot of fellow Desperado Bernard Henri's  'Port de Carhaix'. Reseau Breton and a whole lot more!

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Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Mike Griff on February 23, 2012, 17:40
This is all great stuff, the shot of the canal loch brings back great memories of a holiday on the Nantes - Brest canal some twenty years ago. Magic,
Mike
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: MickT on February 23, 2012, 18:40
Quote from: pilotfriend on February 23, 2012, 16:55
Lovely shots but please only 009 or H0e.
JdF

Your point is made in the right context John but I think a little more flexibility to match the scale bracket that the Society recognises would be more appropriate, otherwise some excellent 00n3 (and of course HOm!) models for example would be inadmissable. I don't think things have changed since I was a committee member, when I think I remember the family of scales catered for by the Society was 3mm to S, or TTn3 through to Sn2 with 3
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: invercloy on February 23, 2012, 19:30
Quote from: pilotfriend on February 23, 2012, 16:55
Lovely shots but please only 009 or H0e.
JdF

Duly noted, John. Sorry, I had forgotten about that whilst off looking through my photos for candidates.  I've removed the ones outside the spectrum covered by the Society.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 24, 2012, 07:17
"Your point is made in the right context John but I think a little more flexibility to match the scale bracket that the Society recognises would be more appropriate, otherwise some excellent 00n3 (and of course HOm!) models for example would be inadmissable. I don't think things have changed since I was a committee member, when I think I remember the family of scales catered for by the Society was 3mm to S, or TTn3 through to Sn2 with 3
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on February 24, 2012, 12:26
YOU ROTTEN LOT!! ;D

And there was me about to drop a photo of my big Shay on here to see if you were all awake! ;D

Ah well, I'll just have to make do with this high angle view of Mynydd-yn-Bwlch, taken from the hill above the station instead.  'Snowdon Ranger' has arrived in the platform and is awaiting the arrival of a down train from Tawel-Llety before continuing the journey.  Meanwhile the following up working from Llanmynach is a train of empty slate wagons and on this occasion is in the capable charge of 'Cackler' which is bouncing enthusiastically through the loop road on the way to the mines.  I do wish I'd put another loop in here as I'd originally intended, as per Tan-y-Bwlch on the FR because it would have made shunting so much easier if it had been possible to retain a run-through as well.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: tedp on February 24, 2012, 17:40
Quote from: pilotfriend on February 24, 2012, 07:17
...Henk Wurst's models are bloody fantastic though, aren't they?
Don't call him wurst. If he were on this forum which luckily for you he isn't, he wouldn't make wurst but mincemeat of you.  ;D

Can I add a photo of my own which I always liked? It's an unusual view of a hidden spot on my layout.

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Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 24, 2012, 17:56
I made that mistake ONCE before and got corrected and since then I remain totally confused.

Ted, please spell his name in BIG LETTERS for me! ;D
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: tedp on February 24, 2012, 19:36
HENK WUST
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: invercloy on February 24, 2012, 19:43
Quote from: tedp on February 24, 2012, 17:40
Can I add a photo of my own which I always liked? It's an unusual view of a hidden spot on my layout.

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I think that's one of my favourite views of the C&DR, Ted.

The headland is my favourite part of your layout.  I like this shot I took of Mick's cattle train whilst we were at Valkenburg...

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Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 24, 2012, 19:50
Quote from: tedp on February 24, 2012, 19:36
HENK WUST

That's right, Henk Wurst! ::)

Ted, that hidden corner is exquisite
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: tat2drod on February 24, 2012, 19:53
Quote from: tedp on February 24, 2012, 19:36
HENK WUST

Just don't try saying that in Haags!
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: tedp on February 24, 2012, 20:27
Thanks, all. Here's another view across the headland:

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Saying HENK WUST in Haags is useless. It won't sound any different, and certainly not like wurst.  ;D
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: tat2drod on February 24, 2012, 20:33
Quote from: tedp on February 24, 2012, 20:27
Saying HENK WUST in Haags is useless. It won't sound any different, and certainly not like wurst.  ;D

Hey.. you didn't live where I lived :-)
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: tedp on February 24, 2012, 20:58
 ;D ;D

Then let me add another view of Henk's Castle Rock. Photo by Jan van Mourik.

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Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 24, 2012, 22:42
Henk is a real artist, in the true sense of the word. I would have far preferred Castle Rock without the military theme however.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: tedp on February 25, 2012, 04:59
For him it was just another theme. His other layouts are strictly non-military, as this photo of the cement factory at Mariah
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 26, 2012, 11:14
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This shot was taken before the new CG track layout. I like the way the eye is lead down the two tracks. The Garratt lurks in the background.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on February 26, 2012, 11:31
Quote from: tedp on February 24, 2012, 17:40
Can I add a photo of my own which I always liked? It's an unusual view of a hidden spot on my layout.
What a delightful view Ted - a lovely corner of your railway.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on February 26, 2012, 11:40
Quote from: pilotfriend on February 26, 2012, 11:14
This shot was taken before the new CG track layout. I like the way the eye is lead down the two tracks. The Garratt lurks in the background.

Excellent composition.  The eye is led into the view from every angle but is stopped from straying too far by the vegetation on the left hand sine and the signal and the building on the right.  nice lighting too.  John, what do you do when it comes to lighting for photography?  I'll use either one or two floodlights depending on convenience and how much depth of layout I'm trying to get in the view.  Come to that, what do you other folk do for lighting?
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 26, 2012, 11:59
I just use the normal layout lighting. The scenery was done using those lights so I find the rendition is as I need. Additional lights always yellow the subject.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on February 26, 2012, 21:29
I see; many thanks John.  My layout lighting consists of 4-off 60 watt clear tungsten lamps on a dimmer; they give a nice even light which is good enough for operating but it isn't really bright or directional enough for photos, hence I always have in the room a 500 watt floodlight.  That plus the camera on the tungsten setting usually does the job.

I take it you're back from Dolgellau now so if I get the chance I'll ring you Monday evening.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 27, 2012, 02:01
I never went to Dolgelly. I was just curious if a certain person would go off on one when I spelt it that way! ;D

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The favourite scene on Bratton for most kids
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: JulienW on February 27, 2012, 12:08
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Borth-y-Gest by Paul Holmes - shame he appears to have gone up to 7 mm scale...
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on February 27, 2012, 12:28
Thanks for this Julien.  It gives me a thought that one thing I don't have on my layout is a proper stack of slate.

All I need now is space for one!  I wonder if I could have a slight rebuild of Llanmynach yard and do some vegetation clearance...
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on February 27, 2012, 12:36
Paul might have changed scale but his 0 scale 'Little Wonder' really is!
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on February 27, 2012, 12:59
We all make mistakes!  I chose a ridiculously small loading gauge and stupidly sharp corners and I've regretted it ever since!
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on March 01, 2012, 21:19
"So what makes this special" I hear you ask but possibly no so politely!  Well, it's not so much the photo as the content.  Quite simple; in 1971 this little Decauville tank and these three coaches were the first four 009 models I ever bought and they started me off in 009.  The loco was
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on March 02, 2012, 08:35
"The loco was
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: tedp on March 02, 2012, 10:27
Bratton Fleming: for me that is the ultimate snow scene!

Borth-y-Gest must have been inspired by an 1870 photo I have seen of Port Dinorwic, with the slate stacked over a huge area.

I thought perhaps I should add another old photo (well, rather younger than 1870): my 1985 view of Glenclachan, 27 years young!

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Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on March 02, 2012, 15:03
That is very kind of you Ted. I love that last shot of yours.
JdF
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: tedp on March 02, 2012, 17:44
Thanks, John. I can still recreate this view as the layout hasn't changed... well, perhaps it should be patched up a little. And the loco and carriage still exist in active service.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: invercloy on March 02, 2012, 17:46
I'm sorry Ted, I can't resist posting this...

I was 1 when you took that photo!  :P BUT it's the one image that sparked my interest in the C&DR, and more serious 009 modelling when I saw it in the centre of the Peco Modeller Book of Narrow Gauge.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: tedp on March 02, 2012, 17:54
Thanks, Tom - although it makes me feel VERY OLD!   ;D

Funny to realise I was about 35 at the time I took the photo.
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: MickT on March 02, 2012, 21:46
Well I was even older than that, (Invercloy's or TedP's ages? not too difficult to work out but I'm admitting nothing) but it was also the photo that rekindled my own interest in 009, which had been a feature in my hobbies for some years before the Peco Modeller Book of Narrow Gauge, but the C&DR and in particular that photo fanned the embers enough for me to become one of the if not the founder members of the C&DR anorak and appreciation society (UK Chapter).  ::)

Mick
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on March 03, 2012, 10:22
It's an excellent photo Ted, of a lovely scene.  (From someone who was a mere 26 when it was taken!  [And still I feel old!])

Hmm...  Thinks "My own railway was celebrating its 10th anniversary that year..."

I thoroughly agree with you about John's Bratton Fleming; It's superb and I was astounded when I saw it at Chatham last year.  Of the many photos I took this is the best; I think I've posted it before but what the heck?  I've been thinking of repeating it here and you've given me the perfect excuse!  Definitely a favourite layout view, even more so because it was taken with the little Canon Ixus under exhibition conditions and not posed in any way.

John - I'm looking forward to you finishing Cliffhanger under snow at one end and in summer sunshine at the other! ;D
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on March 03, 2012, 10:24
Quote from: pilotfriend on March 02, 2012, 08:35
"The loco was
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: pilotfriend on March 03, 2012, 16:02
"John - I'm looking forward to you finishing Cliffhanger under snow at one end and in summer sunshine at the other!"

In your dreams Tigger .............. in your dreams ;D
Title: Re: Our favourite 009 views
Post by: Tigger on March 03, 2012, 20:46
SPOILSPORT!! ;D