Hello. and thank you for letting me join the society I am currently making a dual gauge layout using a tilig bahn dual gauge crossing and I need some help with wiring there switch which is a DPDT switch I have no idea where to put the wiring I have worked how to connect it with out the switch. but I need to put the wires on the switch also I. then need to be able to power point which is straight after the crossing which is oo gauge any wiring tips or guides are greatly appreciated
Welcome to the Society and to the forum.
With a bit of luck, there will be someone here who can answer your question. (I can't help, I'm afraid)
Yes, welcome 9520BFIS?
The short answer is I don't know, but I imagine it is similar to wiring other (electrofrog?) diamond crossings. See for example -
https://www.brian-lambert.co.uk/Electrical-Page-3.html (https://www.brian-lambert.co.uk/Electrical-Page-3.html)
I think the assumption made is that the same controller is used for both routes and I understand it does not matter if it is for DC or DCC. However, I imagine there is the possibility that the NG and standard gauge sections will have separate controllers so the wiring will be a little more complex in that one controller will be switched in while the other is switched out. On the other hand perhaps a controller is shared if there are sections of track with three rails running in parallel with NG and SG sharing one of the rails.
Should no one have a direct answer I'm sure we can put the hive mind to figuring it out.
Before you go any further with this project I would strongly recomend that you test you 009 locos in the Tillig duel gauge points.These do have short plastic sections where the rails cross and these can make 009 locos stall at slow speeds. It is ok if the loco is going fast or has more then four wheel pick-up, but even then there can be issues. Also from memory the flange depths for the 00 standard gauge items are not that deep and some items will not go thtough them as a result, so again some testing is a good idea.
thank you for your response testing it already done on all my stock and all is well
Quote from: 9520BFIS on August 27, 2024, 17:31thank you for your response testing it already done on all my stock and all is well
That's great, you are good to go.
It was over 25 years ago now when we tried the Tillig dual gauge track.
We just could not get all the 009/H0e locos to run through the points at a dead slow speed.
There was also issues with some of the smaller 009 wheels, for example the ones on Roco log bolsters that we use extensivly as bogies, dropping down the flange gap.
In addition many of the H0 locos we wanted to use had wheel flanges that were too big for the depth of the frog and check rails.
There were also other smaller issues that could have been overcome, the main one being that the rail profile was not the same height as Peco 009 or 00 track so a special joining fishplates had to be made to get a flat railhead. Or we could have used all Tillig track, but that was about twice the price of Peco track so would work out expensive on a 35 foot layout!
In the end the dual gauge track was made using Peco 00 track including making a dual gauge point with a moving frog, much like a quarry stub point. This set up works very well with all our locos and stock and has proven to be very reliable. At the time we thought that the moving frog was not in any way prototypical. However, a few years later we found photos of just such a track instalation in East Germany, handy as that is where the layout is set!!