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Title: heljan 2-4-2 Baldwin loco
Post by: David Banks on July 11, 2024, 11:13
 Hi All,

I am thinking of buying one of the above, and would like to know if it will negotiate 9" curves, as the Bachmann Baldwin does.

Thanks in anticipation.
David Banks
Title: Re: heljan 2-4-2 Baldwin loco
Post by: B.Meldon on July 11, 2024, 13:07
Heljan state that the minimum radius is 12-inch.

It may also have issues with anything less that 18-inch reverse curves.

So probably not suitable for 9-inch curves and points.
Title: Re: heljan 2-4-2 Baldwin loco
Post by: David Banks on July 11, 2024, 15:17
Many thanks Brian.
I was hoping it would be OK. I have 12" rad electrofrog points and flexicurve track, but as my embrio layout is only 4'x 2', I need 9"ish curves to fit an interesting layout design in.A friend has two Heljan L&B Loco's that have given him endless trouble.I shall have to buy something elsewhere.
Cheers, David
 
Title: Re: heljan 2-4-2 Baldwin loco
Post by: B.Meldon on July 11, 2024, 20:42
The Heljan 2-4-2 has far less issues than the Heljan 2-6-2.
Title: Re: heljan 2-4-2 Baldwin loco
Post by: JulienW on July 12, 2024, 16:59
Quote from: David Banks on July 11, 2024, 15:17<snipped> I need 9"ish curves to fit an interesting layout design in...
 

To be honest the only thing I can think off that would be OK on that sort of curves is going to be the Quarry Hunslet or RNAD diesel locos from Bachmann, essentially sticking with 4 wheel locos. Even the War Department 4-6-0 Baldwin is going to struggle, especially when it comes to being coupled up to stock as there is quite an overhang, and you may also find it difficult using anything other than four wheel stock too.

Alternatively you could try for a less ambitious track plan with larger radius curves (10 or 11 inches) or a slightly bigger baseboard to allow 12" curves.
Title: Re: heljan 2-4-2 Baldwin loco
Post by: David Banks on July 12, 2024, 17:15
Thanks Julien,
I have 2 Bachmann Baldwins, and they are fine with the 9" radius,which is why I wondered about the Heljan Baldwin.I have also tested some N gauge 4-4-0 & 4-6-2 etc Loco's I bought for use on several 009 chassis, and they are OK too. A friend has a Heljan 2-4-2, and has tried it on 9.75" Kato track, said it was fine, so I'm going to take a wee risk and get one to try out🤞. He also tried the Heljan 2-6-2 Manning Wardle, but it wouldn't move at all.
Title: Re: heljan 2-4-2 Baldwin loco
Post by: B.Meldon on July 12, 2024, 21:36
It is not just the actualloco. You may well also find issues with couplings.
Title: Re: heljan 2-4-2 Baldwin loco
Post by: David Banks on July 21, 2024, 10:43
Hi All, Many thanks to all who replied to my post. I took the plunge and bought one, and I'm pleased to report that it fine on my 9" radius test track. Even the couplings where fine with both bogie coaches and 4 wheel coaches. no signs of stuttering or derailments.