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Modelling => Rolling stock => Topic started by: Justin Phillips on May 18, 2023, 23:56

Title: Real life examples and models of scrap metal gondolas
Post by: Justin Phillips on May 18, 2023, 23:56
Has any one ever modelled a gondola of the type seen I guess mainly in the US for carrying stuff like scrap metal (see attached an example for one carrying wood!)? Are there any real life examples of these style cars used on narrow gauge railways that you know of?

I have seen a couple of threads that have similar builds, e.g.:

https://www.009society.com/forum/index.php?topic=5090.msg36360#msg36360 (https://www.009society.com/forum/index.php?topic=5090.msg36360#msg36360)
https://www.009society.com/forum/index.php?topic=4875.msg36101#msg36101 (https://www.009society.com/forum/index.php?topic=4875.msg36101#msg36101)

I think it would be a relatively simple scratch (as someone who has never scratch built before) build but I would be interested in kits as well.
Title: Re: Real life examples and models of scrap metal gondolas
Post by: B.Meldon on May 19, 2023, 08:38
How about the ex- South African 'B wagons' as used on the FR and Welsh Highland Railway. In Wales these have been used to carry many cargos over the years, including, push bikes, cut down foliage, sleepers old and new, coal, ash, loco parts, this list goes on......
In SA again they were used to carry just about anything! Some were even fitted with stakes down the side to carry logs and sugar cane.

There are two basic versions, there are several detail changes, but the early ones have flat ends whereas the later ones have ends with a tapper at the bottom. (Both versions are on the FR/WHR.)


https://www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/B_Wagons
Title: Re: Real life examples and models of scrap metal gondolas
Post by: Justin Phillips on May 19, 2023, 09:14
Quote from: B.Meldon on May 19, 2023, 08:38
How about the ex- South African 'B wagons' as used on the FR and Welsh Highland Railway. In Wales these have been used to carry many cargos over the years, including, push bikes, cut down foliage, sleepers old and new, coal, ash, loco parts, this list goes on......
In SA again they were used to carry just about anything! Some were even fitted with stakes down the side to carry logs and sugar cane.

There are two basic versions, there are several detail changes, but the early ones have flat ends whereas the later ones have ends with a tapper at the bottom. (Both versions are on the FR/WHR.)


https://www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/B_Wagons

Thanks, just the kind of thing I was looking for.
Title: Re: Real life examples and models of scrap metal gondolas
Post by: B.Meldon on May 19, 2023, 12:55
Boston Large Works used to produce (up to Summer 2022) a 009 3d version of the B wagons.
But these are no longer in production.

There is also this one on Shapways:

https://www.shapeways.com/product/8U8FCPFU8/whr-sar-b-wagon-type-2?optionId=308482490&li=shops
Title: Re: Real life examples and models of scrap metal gondolas
Post by: JulienW on May 19, 2023, 16:30
Didn't Allen Doherty do an etched brass SAR B class wagon (http://www.worsleyworks.co.uk/NG/NG_South_Africa_4mm.htm) too?

To be honest I'd have thought that any open wagon could have been used to carry a load of scrap metal, and on that basis the possibilities are endless...
Title: Re: Real life examples and models of scrap metal gondolas
Post by: Justin Phillips on May 19, 2023, 16:53
Quote from: JulienW on May 19, 2023, 16:30To be honest I'd have thought that any open wagon could have been used to carry a load of scrap metal, and on that basis the possibilities are endless...

I guess what I should have said was in the construction style of the example in the attached photo. Call me sad but I have a thing for metal gondolas  :o
Title: Re: Real life examples and models of scrap metal gondolas
Post by: JulienW on May 19, 2023, 21:59
Well, I wouldn't say sad - at least no worse than the rest of us on here, as we all have our own peculiarities! ;D


Like modelling narrow gauge railways for a start!