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Title: Kato 11-109 loco chassis for Radio Control
Post by: gtmspyder on January 12, 2022, 16:42
Hello fellow modelers, its a long time since I graced these pages with anything, but I would like some help please.

I model 009 and 0-16.5 and use radio control for motion.

for 009 I use the Kato chassis, the old 11-103 was the easiest as you could get to the motor terminals and wheel pickups easily, required for radio control.

The new Kato replacement chassis for the 11-103 is the 11-109 which has all the workings enclosed, so you can't get to the motor terminals, and by the looks of things, the wheel pickups seems to be via the pinpoint axles running in copper cups for current pickup, bad news for we radio control users.

It looks as though we might have to put up with reverse battery feed back into the track via the pickups, but it is essential  eo be able to access the motor terminals.

Does anyone know how to overcome these problems please?

Kind regards,

Brian Twigg (GTMSPYDER)
Title: Re: Kato 11-109 loco chassis for Radio Control
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on January 12, 2022, 17:28
I think that if you remove the plastic shell (I understand it is not critical structurally) then the wires from the motor can be separated from the pickup-pinpoint bearing pieces.

I'm sure there is a thread on it on NGRM-online but I can't find it, but I did find this:

https://groups.io/g/HOn30/topic/kato_11_109/78984711?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,78984711 (https://groups.io/g/HOn30/topic/kato_11_109/78984711?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,78984711)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/LbiWBE4k7S8sRcZV6 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/LbiWBE4k7S8sRcZV6)

Edit: I remember now! - Tramfabriek:

https://tramfabriek.nl/kato-take-a-part.html (https://tramfabriek.nl/kato-take-a-part.html)
Title: Re: Kato 11-109 loco chassis for Radio Control
Post by: Frank on January 12, 2022, 19:27
Graeme has it right in his post.  The chassis is a split chassis design, there are two wires from the chassis to the motor connections, one each side, you just disconnect the wires from the chassis and reconnect them to the receiver output.

More details here:

https://ngrm-online.com/index.php?/forums/topic/29053-converting-kato-109-to-dcc/#comment-746484

Frank

Title: Re: Kato 11-109 loco chassis for Radio Control
Post by: gtmspyder on January 13, 2022, 09:34
Hello Frank, its nice to hear from you.

I have managed to get at the motor wires, but I have left the copper axle pickup cups in place as bearings, I'm just waiting for Andy to return my TX23  transmitter back having sent it to him for a check up along with three RX's that were bound to it

I'm now working in 7mm  0-16.5 narrow gauge using the TX22 as well as the new 009 layout I have nearly completed, all under radio control of the TX23, so I'm keeping myself busy.

Have you any shows pending?

Kind regards,

Brian.  (gtmspyder)
Title: Re: Kato 11-109 loco chassis for Radio Control
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on January 13, 2022, 15:39
Sounds like great instructions for DCC decoder installation too.
Title: Re: Kato 11-109 loco chassis for Radio Control
Post by: Frank on January 13, 2022, 18:54
That sounds good Brian.

I don't have any shows pending, I have been rather busy with other issues recently and that coupled with the effects of Covid on the show calendar means I have none in the offing.

Best regards

Frank