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Prototype information => General => Topic started by: Alan Pollock on December 10, 2021, 21:20

Title: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: Alan Pollock on December 10, 2021, 21:20
Hi Guys

Did anyone watch this YouTube video i thought it would be of interest https://youtu.be/cvNpcOU7R6s

Thanks
Alan
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on December 11, 2021, 08:14
 I like the double sided format and having the main run behind the station rather in front of it as would be the obvious choice. It looks as if it would make running trains round and round (say when talking to the audience) more interesting, with the train partly obscured. I guess that is only really practical on a longer layout. Perhaps 8ft is not that long. It does give a really nice long smooth sweeping curve too, not a waggly little bit that is sometimes seen when a straight section is curved.

Also credit to Hornby for admitting other manufacturers exist!
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: Peter Boulter on December 11, 2021, 10:00
It was an interesting video and I'd give a double credit to Hornby for not only admitting that other manufacturers exist but giving over a large part of their video to a gauge they don't support. From what I've seen most manufacturers take the view that if they don't produce anything for a particular gauge/scale they don't even mention it.
Introducing 009 to their audience isn't likely to generate any extra revenue for Hornby, even the buildings shown on their layout build were from another manufacturer.
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: garrywhiting on December 11, 2021, 11:22
Quote from: GraemeD on December 11, 2021, 08:14
Quote from: Peter Boulter on December 11, 2021, 10:00

Introducing 009 to their audience isn't likely to generate any extra revenue for Hornby, even the buildings shown on their layout build were from another manufacturer.

Also credit to Hornby for admitting other manufacturers exist!

A common misconception is that Hornby Magazine is linked to Hornby Railways ---- Please note that despite the name it is not. When it was launched a few years ago , it was going to be a resurrected Model Railway Constructor , but a well known high street retailer said they would not stock yet another UK magazine with "model railway" in the title so an agreement was quickly reached between the publisher & Hornby Railways to use the name, and the well known high street retailer became enthusiastic to stock the magazine under the revised title.

So Hornby magazine is independant from Hornby Railways.

Garry
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: Alan Pollock on December 11, 2021, 12:03
Hi Guys

Garry has beets me 2 this comment as Hornby Magazine is a different company dispite the name and Hornby is I believe Hornby Hobbies or at least that's normally what on my credit card staitment and Hornby mag is Keypublishing owned I hope I have these details correct

Thanks
Alan
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on December 11, 2021, 13:50
That's interesting. I've tended to avoid it because I thought it was mostly there to plug Hornby products.

Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: Alan Pollock on December 11, 2021, 14:51
Quote from: GraemeD on December 11, 2021, 13:50
That's interesting. I've tended to avoid it because I thought it was mostly there to plug Hornby products.

Hi Graeme,


Please don't take my work for this but I think the 2 guys that present the show/video Mike and Richard. For some reason I have it that they actually purchase most of the items they reviewing and seem to be interested in modelling as they do have an N gauge layout witch I think is Richards and I think the layout that they use for the 00 gauge (toply dale) is in Mike's garage where I think this layout is being built as it looks like toply dale in the background anyway I've went off topic here but I think the information is correct but I did find it interesting bit of modelling

Thanks
Alan

Sorry I forgot to mention the 0 gauge that is under toply dale
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: engerth399 on December 11, 2021, 17:15
It was good.  Wish I could build baseboards that quickly.  For someone who's modelling ideas were formed a long time ago it was good to present-day techniques - I shall need to look more at these.
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: Hobby on December 11, 2021, 21:12
If you use laser cut baseboards you can!
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: clayliner on December 12, 2021, 10:42

Quote from: garrywhiting on December 11, 2021, 11:22
...so an agreement was quickly reached between the publisher & Hornby Railways to use the name...
Garry

I imagine sums of money were also involved for the privilege of using the Hornby name - and I would also presume that Hornby Hobbies would have significant editorial oversight of the magazine and its contents to protect their (valuable) brand name. It would be surprising if they didn't.

David.
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: garrywhiting on December 12, 2021, 16:46
Quote from: clayliner on December 12, 2021, 10:42

Quote from: garrywhiting on December 11, 2021, 11:22
...so an agreement was quickly reached between the publisher & Hornby Railways to use the name...
Garry

I imagine sums of money were also involved for the privilege of using the Hornby name - and I would also presume that Hornby Hobbies would have significant editorial oversight of the magazine and its contents to protect their (valuable) brand name. It would be surprising if they didn't.

David.

Then be prepared to be surprised. Hornby Hobbies have absolutely nil imput , editorialy or otherwise into Hornby Magazine and to suggest otherwise is totally incorrect.

Hornby is a name that for the vast majority of the population is synonymous with a particular product --much like Hoover & vacuum cleaners, Martini & vermouth -- to pick two random examples. To see Hornby used as a synonym for model railways see Jeremy Clarkson's column in today's Sunday Times.

Garry
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: B.Meldon on December 13, 2021, 12:14
Very good.
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: clayliner on December 13, 2021, 18:12

Quote from: garrywhiting on December 12, 2021, 16:46Then be prepared to be surprised. Garry

Duly surprised, Garry! Whether 'Hornby' is a generic term or not, the 'official' Hornby company would have most to lose from any adverse publicity.

Brand names are worth protecting. For example, remember how the whole Virgin brand was damaged some years ago when Virgin Trains became a byword for inefficiency and over-pricing.

David.
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: Alan Pollock on February 04, 2022, 10:29
Hi Guys,

For those that are interested Hornby Magazine are doing part 2 live at 8pm uk time here is the link to part 2 https://youtu.be/m6mH2ICFtqA

Thanks
Alan
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: cp.409067 on February 04, 2022, 14:54

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I do not understand why this is being billed as premiered this evening.

Part 2 (lasting over an hour) was available a couple of weeks ago. I watched it on 19 January 2022.


CP
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: Alan Pollock on February 04, 2022, 17:26
Quote from: cp.409067 on February 04, 2022, 14:54

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I do not understand why this is being billed as premiered this evening.

Part 2 (lasting over an hour) was available a couple of weeks ago. I watched it on 19 January 2022.


CP


Hi

I think it was available to Hornby Magazine subscribers who get it early and available to none subscribers I believe a month later I could be wrong tho

Thanks
Alan
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: cp.409067 on February 04, 2022, 22:44

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I watched it on 19 January 2022 - and am NOT a HORNBY magazine subscriber.


CP
Title: Re: Hornby Magazine YouTube
Post by: Alan Pollock on February 05, 2022, 10:23
Quote from: cp.409067 on February 04, 2022, 22:44

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I watched it on 19 January 2022 - and am NOT a HORNBY magazine subscriber.


CP


Hi

Now that strange I was lead to believe that this was only available to Hornby Magazine subscribers upto last night then I have no idea how or why this was came about.

Thanks
Alan