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Modelling => Rolling stock => Topic started by: Derek Clark on January 20, 2021, 15:52

Title: Brake gear
Post by: Derek Clark on January 20, 2021, 15:52
Is it worth it in OO9?
Title: Re: Brake gear
Post by: MickT on January 21, 2021, 11:49
Are you talking about simulated brake rods etc on locos or brake gear on goods and passenger vehicles?

I can't comment on locos as I never worry about using inside frame Minitrix dock tank chassis under whitemetal loco bodies let alone simulating brake gear, but with rolling stock, the answer is "Yes" (although I am very guilty of just plonking a home made goods vehicle on top of a Peco 10ft N wagon chassis and not paring off the N scale brake fittings on all 4 wheels!). "Proper" 009 modellers such as Ted Polet do go to the trouble of fitting appropriate brake gear rodding and simulated shoes under their rolling stock and it does make a considerable difference to the overall impression of the stock.

Mick
Title: Re: Brake gear
Post by: clayliner on January 21, 2021, 12:22

If you think so, the answer is probably yes. If not, then no...!

David.
Title: Re: Brake gear
Post by: Derek Clark on January 21, 2021, 17:14
Thank God for two answers. I was beginning to wonder if I had written something impolite!
I have just assembled, but not finished, my first Dundas goods van and the open wagon that comes with the newbies joining pack. I added the pair of brake shoes to the van and realised that you cannot see them under the overhang. The variety of brake fittings that came with the open is bewildering and I thought, "does it matter?"

Despite MickT's yes I am leaning towards clayliners unequivocal answer.  :)

Cheers
Title: Re: Brake gear
Post by: clayliner on January 21, 2021, 18:27

As you only posted your question yesterday two replies (three now!) is pretty good going! I imagine many people only visit the forum once a week or so (some, sadly, much less than that) so you shouldn't be too disheartened if you have to wait several days for an answer.

My previous response wasn't intended to sound as flippant as perhaps it did. To enlarge slightly on what I said, it really depends on what sort of standard you're aiming for in your modelling. If you want an exhibition-level layout which will become legendary and appear in all the magazines I guess you're got to put in the extra work. If you're modelling purely for your own pleasure then if you're happy with what you've done, that's fine. We all Many of us cut corners through lack of time, money or enthusiasm, especially if it doesn't show too much!

David.
Title: Re: Brake gear
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on January 21, 2021, 19:39
I think it can also help if sufficient background or context is given in the question to guide anyone able to answer as to what level of detail would be useful.

Your second post Derek is a lot clearer!  :)
Title: Re: Brake gear
Post by: Derek Clark on January 22, 2021, 09:54
Thank you all. It might be a good idea if I outline what I think I am doing in a separate post and seek general advice.
Title: Re: Brake gear
Post by: Simon Hargraves on February 09, 2021, 19:14
I do generally fit brake and other underframe detail to rolling stock provided it is going to be visible.
Bear in mind that some prototype wagons may have very simple brakes or in some cases none at all...l'm thinking of slate wagons, skips and the like.
I've also built one of the Colin Ashby opens...all I fitted was a single brake shoe with a long lever on one side of the vehicle, similar I think to the open wagons on the Welshpool & Llanfair Light Railway.
I will admit that I don't generally bother with brakes on things like the Dundas WD bogies as they are tiny and generally pretty well hidden in the gloom whereas on some items of stock the omission would be a lot more obvious, especially if your viewpoint is from the side on an embankment for example.
Whatever you do, enjoy it!
Simon.
Title: Re: Brake gear
Post by: Derek Clark on February 10, 2021, 09:15
Quote from: Simon Hargraves on February 09, 2021, 19:14
I do generally fit brake and other underframe detail to rolling stock provided it is going to be visible.
Bear in mind that some prototype wagons may have very simple brakes or in some cases none at all...l'm thinking of slate wagons, skips and the like.
I've also built one of the Colin Ashby opens...all I fitted was a single brake shoe with a long lever on one side of the vehicle, similar I think to the open wagons on the Welshpool & Llanfair Light Railway.
I will admit that I don't generally bother with brakes on things like the Dundas WD bogies as they are tiny and generally pretty well hidden in the gloom whereas on some items of stock the omission would be a lot more obvious, especially if your viewpoint is from the side on an embankment for example.
Whatever you do, enjoy it!
Simon.
Thanks Simon. I will take that as my exemplar.