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Modelling => Locomotives => Topic started by: Derek Clark on January 06, 2021, 18:20

Title: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Derek Clark on January 06, 2021, 18:20
Peco tell me that their 'James' needs a GF 57xx chassis which are obviously only available second hand.
Are any of the other GF 0-6-0 chassis the same so I can widen my search?
Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Hobby on January 06, 2021, 18:54
I've got a 94xx chassis if that's any help. £30 including post in UK.
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Derek Clark on January 06, 2021, 18:59
Quote from: Hobby on January 06, 2021, 18:54
I've got a 94xx chassis if that's any help. £30 including post in UK.

Is it the same as the 57xx?
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Hobby on January 06, 2021, 19:44
I think so but I'm not an expert on them. No doubt someone will tell us!
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Derek Clark on January 06, 2021, 19:58
Quote from: Hobby on January 06, 2021, 19:44
I think so but I'm not an expert on them. No doubt someone will tell us!
If it is I'll take it, please.
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Hobby on January 07, 2021, 08:48
OK, we'll wait for a response to your other thread!
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Hobby on January 07, 2021, 09:51
For anyone who is wondering, this is the loco I have. It seems to be the same chassis block as the photo on the Peco website but with later, finer, wheels.

(https://i.imgur.com/fJeDB1t.jpg)
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Derek Clark on January 07, 2021, 10:05
This also begs the question of which other loco kits and prints will fit this chassis?
I don't have to have the Peco James if I can get something else as attractive (to my eye)  :)
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on January 07, 2021, 10:48
If you have neither the chassis nor the body shell, then have you considered a kit that uses a more modern chassis such as the Bachmann Farish 08 (outside frame). As well as the chassis being a really good runner there are some handsome bodies to put on top of it along with the appropriate steam outline motion, e.g.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0841/3421/products/La_Meuse_39_large.jpg?v=1541519160)

https://www.lightrailwaystores.co.uk/ (https://www.lightrailwaystores.co.uk/)

If you are going with a James or a Jeanette, to my mind they look a lot better with a shorter wheelbase chassis.
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Hobby on January 07, 2021, 11:29
After a discussion on NGRM it seems the two are different in that the 94xx has a longer chassis block than the 57xx and even wheelbase. So won't fit the James without some hacking but will fit the GVT tram loco by Peco. Sorry Derek!
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on January 07, 2021, 11:55
I'm not sure if it is the right chassis for the kit, but a model that I think works better with the (appropriate) GF chassis is the GEM Snailbeach Bagnall 'Dennis'.

That is a large and good looking (to my eyes) loco.
https://dundasmodels.co.uk/webstore/index.php/hikashop-menu-for-module-108/product/5330-bagnall-0-6-0-tank-loco-dennis-from-the-snailbeach-rly-out-of-stock (https://dundasmodels.co.uk/webstore/index.php/hikashop-menu-for-module-108/product/5330-bagnall-0-6-0-tank-loco-dennis-from-the-snailbeach-rly-out-of-stock)

https://anticsonline.uk/Product/GEM-9001-Bagnall-Side-Tank-Narrow-Gauge-Locomotive-Body-Kit-OO9_N108274521 (https://anticsonline.uk/Product/GEM-9001-Bagnall-Side-Tank-Narrow-Gauge-Locomotive-Body-Kit-OO9_N108274521)

(https://dundasmodels.co.uk/webstore/images/com_hikashop/upload/thumbnails/300x300/9001.jpg)






Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Hobby on January 07, 2021, 12:11
Yes, the GF 1109 is the 94xx.
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Derek Clark on January 07, 2021, 12:52
Quote from: Hobby on January 07, 2021, 11:29
After a discussion on NGRM it seems the two are different in that the 94xx has a longer chassis block than the 57xx and even wheelbase. So won't fit the James without some hacking but will fit the GVT tram loco by Peco. Sorry Derek!

Thanks H but I will have to pass. I like that Snailbeach Bagnal body - I have ties to Snailbeach - but I need cheaper to keep lockdown with Herself sweeter  :)
Many thanks for your help.
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: Stephen Rainsbury on February 11, 2021, 21:59
So far I have bought three Locos for their Chassis to use with these kits, but I actually like the models too much to strip down, and am now looking for some second hand N Gauge track to use them with.
Title: Re: GF 57xx chassis & Peco James
Post by: paul ludlow on February 12, 2021, 22:35
Hi, I have built the snailbeach bagnall, Dennis. It is a lovely locomotive, but be aware it is a LARGE locomotive.  Be careful of your loading gauge/bridge & tunnel clearances, also check the stock you choose to run behind it. Mine looks really good with some dundas Irish freight stock in tow. 🙂