This is my first posting so please be gentle, and promise I am not trying to be controversial. At my club I model HO USA (High Wycombe). I love ng and esp the juxtaposition of ng and sg. My little layout has HO and HOn30 with some dual gauge-may post details later. There is not much dual gauge on the exhib circuit tho some brave souls have a short bit of sg track and a single truck etc
What is the general attitude of 009 members to OO/HO? If I wanted to exhibit my layout at a ng show would I be out of place operating dual gauge as my layout has a purpose and the two gauges are complementary
So far I am impressed with 009 Soc. and some great exhibitions; cant wait for Sparsholt. Also am getting some ng locos to run as well as my HO stuff and that is saying something with US HO
Any responses would be much appreciated
Peter Smith
Quote from: petersmith1942 on April 07, 2010, 15:14
This is my first posting so please be gentle, and promise I am not trying to be controversial. At my club I model HO USA (High Wycombe). I love ng and esp the juxtaposition of ng and sg. My little layout has HO and HOn30 with some dual gauge-may post details later. There is not much dual gauge on the exhib circuit tho some brave souls have a short bit of sg track and a single truck etc
What is the general attitude of 009 members to OO/HO? If I wanted to exhibit my layout at a ng show would I be out of place operating dual gauge as my layout has a purpose and the two gauges are complementary
So far I am impressed with 009 Soc. and some great exhibitions; cant wait for Sparsholt. Also am getting some ng locos to run as well as my HO stuff and that is saying something with US HO
Any responses would be much appreciated
Peter Smith
Of course you would not be out of place. In fact there are a few layouts already out there on the exhibition circuit that do this with 00 / 009 in combination. Two that come readily to mind are "Waterhulme" from Ian Drummond, and " Gox Hill Quarry " from Peter Leadley.
The most likely reaction you will get from the general public will be along the lines of - - - " You do realise it's wrong to mix 00 and N gauge on the same layout " such is the general ignorance about narrow gauge.
My 'home' layout features both NG and SG (Aberystwyth 1930s). Unfortunately the one board with both on (so far!) is too bulky to exhibit.
I seem to remember the Edinburgh club had a nice SG/NG layout in RM about 20 years ago - I think it was called Caer Edwyn. I think there was another one about the same time (High Weald Light Railway) that featured interlaced track.
There was also a plan in a recent Model Rail featuring both SG and NG at a representation of Port Penrhyn.
I suspect there are quite a few members of the Society who started out 'just' adding a few NG sidings to a SG layout - that's how I started!
Richard
Richard,
Your memory serves you well! It is Caeredwyn and is still exhibited:
http://elmrc.freehostia.com/caeredwyn.html (http://elmrc.freehostia.com/caeredwyn.html)
One of the club members Malcolm M.. is an 009 Society member I believe and the club let me run some of my tiny Japanese locos made by fellow member Yoshiya Kobayashi on the layout.
The fiddle yards at both ends are Denny-type train turntables on view to the public. This is a great idea and means the dispatchers who are permanently on duty there, have plenty of time to interact with the public and answer questions about the trains on view in front of them.
As can bee seen from the track plan the std gauge is a short shuttle.
Hi Peter
My home layout also has both HO and HOe. There are two sections of duel gauge track, a duel gauge point and transporters wagons (Narrow gauge wagons carrying standard gauge wagons.)
There are however a few drawbacks in mixing the gauges in models that you need to be aware of. These are mainly to do with crossing one line over another on the flat. Basically the differences in the wheel profile and flange sizes makes any duel gauge point work very difficult to get working smoothly. In fact the only way I have ever seen this done and run correctly is when all the standard gauge vehicles use very fine wheel standards that are basically the same as the narrow gauge. If this is not the case the narrow gauge wheels just bump down the gaps required for the standard gauge flanges.
Also as with all 009/HOe point work it all has to be made
Hello all, I'm new here and new to this forum posting thing as well!
Good points raised on dual gauge, thanks for the tips. I am in the process of building a joint OO9/OO gauge section for my OO gauge layout, with a section of dual gauge track, utlising Tillig Elite ho/hoe track work and standard Peco streamline (Code 100) for the OO gauge. The Tillig track looks great and so far testing has not revealed any major problems.
:)
Hi all
thanks so much for all responses especially Brian Meldon. I have some dual gauge but use a hidden sector plate to avoid dual gauge points
I use Peco code 75 and hand lay the ng track using code 75 rail. I have installed a Peco code 80 ng point diverging from the dual gauge on the narrow gage side- if that makes sense and my HO stock negotiates it ok on the "main" line
I have not figured a way yet to do a dual gauge point and for some no doubt illogical reason I dont warm to the proprietory points I have examined
I couldnt contemplate dead frogs anywhere and although I dont plan a flat crossing I would use all code 75 and wire it with a switch to change the polarity. Must admit I have only done this in 0 scale but it worked ok. I built the crossing on pcb board and cut the required insulation gaps as required. It didnt look pretty but was in a hidden area
By the way I realise that gluing the ng track on sg ties leaves the rail lower than the sg tracks= again if that makes sense- but have not had any problems so far. My layout started at 3ft long 8 inches wide, widening to 12 inches at one end. I have since extended at the wide end another 4 feet, 18 inches of which is staging. This is on the principle that model railways always use the space available plus 2 feet!
Many thanks, Peter Smith