These came as part of an eBay bundle and seem a bit rough. What do you reckon?
Give them a good scrub and hot water and washing up liquid with a toothbrush, then fill the gaps and spray them?
Punt them straight back onto eBay for a few quid?
Keep them for the chassis?
"Kitbash" them?
I am not even sure what the wagons are supposed to be.
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Could the lower two be horse boxes?
Clean them up a bit and and sell as "rare, out of production" :laugh:
Do they have any makers marks on the underside?
Are they H0 (16.5mm gauge), TT (12mm gauge) or N (9mm gauge)?
Quote from: B.Meldon on January 22, 2020, 08:48
Do they have any makers marks on the underside?
Are they H0 (16.5mm gauge), TT (12mm gauge) or N (9mm gauge)?
I dunno, they haven't arrived yet :)
The whole bundle was £33 (inc P&P) which is less that you would have had to pay last month just for the tippers, but getting a cab to use has solved the other problem of what to do with the loco I have already re-furbished. (Other thread)
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They are all N scale of course!. The coach is a Lima "Swedish coach" - I've used the chassis from several of these - very good runners.
I don't know about the 2 goods vehicles, but from recent postings on here, I am guessing that they are also Lima, 1960's vintage which accounts for them having what we now know as "Bemo type couplings" - see Brian Meldon's postings and his articles in the news, the recently quoted March 2015 issue which is on the 009 Soc website refers to Lima's use of this type of coupling in the early days and has a photo of one of the German N bogie coaches with these couplings.
If you are looking at these for 009 use, I would say ditch the bodies or pass them on to continental N modellers and use the chassis as generally speaking they are very good for mods.
Mick
Quote from: MickT on January 22, 2020, 11:00
They are all N scale of course!. The coach is a Lima "Swedish coach" - I've used the chassis from several of these - very good runners.
If you are looking at these for 009 use, I would say ditch the bodies or pass them on to continental N modellers and use the chassis as generally speaking they are very good for mods.
Thanks Mick, I wasn't sure but suspected that they might be.
I will have a quick look for prices on eBay, but according to "Rainsbury Maths" a working wagon chassis is worth £3.50 as that's what a new one would cost on Dundas. I am just not sure that I need anymore right now as I already have 3 waiting on the shelf and no idea what I want to do with them :)
Quote from: Stephen Rainsbury on January 22, 2020, 11:09
I will have a quick look for prices on eBay, but according to "Rainsbury Maths" a working wagon chassis is worth £3.50 as that's what a new one would cost on Dundas. I am just not sure that I need anymore right now as I already have 3 waiting on the shelf and no idea what I want to do with them :)
The Dundas price for a wagon chassis is probably referring to the good old Peco 15ft (and the shorter 10ft) wagon chassis that they have stocked for years. A bit of a shock for me as I bulk purchased a bunch of them from Andrew Hastie years ago and I think I paid £1.50 for them (and stock is now getting low!........). These Lima chassis are better as they have metal wheels and are generally more robust. If you want to keep to N gauge couplings for economy reasons (ie they are "free" with any N chassis - except the 2 ancient ones you have here!) then the N Lima couplings are better than the Peco ones as they are sprung.
This is not an invitation to start a thread drift debate about the pros and cons of N couplings - the late Dave Scott used them on his Chelthwaite & Beccadale 009 layout, which is where I got my original inspiration from and this was reinforced when I discovered that TedP uses them on the Craigcorrie & Dunalistair - which is quite enough justification for the decision I made nearly 30 years ago! When I first met Dave Scott and the C&B which must have been around 1990 at an MRX in Burnley, I asked him why he used N couplings rather than the ubiquitous "Bemo" type and he gave me a somewhat pitying look and in broad Lancashire told me that "it is because they are free as they come with t'chassis, only a reet idiot would spend good cash on replacement couplings that don't work as well anyway". Strong justification case and easy decision to make M'lud and I have gone down that route myself for over a quarter of a century. Those who knew Dave will testify that it was always a good idea to agree with him.
Mick
Quote from: MickT on January 22, 2020, 22:37
The Dundas price for a wagon chassis is probably referring to the good old Peco 15ft (and the shorter 10ft) wagon chassis that they have stocked for years... If you want to keep to N gauge couplings for economy reasons (ie they are "free" with any N chassis - except the 2 ancient ones you have here!) then the N Lima couplings are better than the Peco ones as they are sprung.
Thanks Mick, yes these are the chassis I was referring to, not that I have bought any yet as I seem to have acquired quite a few N-Gauge wagons for rebuilding already, Nice to know that these are good one though,
I have standardized on Greenwich couplings so converting everything to that (or just the stud at one end) however if I can get the incumbent ones off intact I am happy to pass them on :)
Stephen