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Modelling => Locomotives => Topic started by: jaymzhatstand on January 01, 2010, 10:16

Title: Backwoods Double Fairlie
Post by: jaymzhatstand on January 01, 2010, 10:16
Thanks to all those who have responded to my question thread regarding the detail differences, I'm still looking into the various visual differences before I make a start on that bit of the loco

However, I have made a start on the bit that is constant between them all, the power bogies.  In an hour or so, I have managed to fit and dress the bearings for one of the power bogies. The drive gear needs sorting out next and then I can fit the frame spacers at the open end to make a rigid unit, but it all seems to be going well so far (famous last words!)

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I've also ordered some figures from the Aiden Campbell range; a driver and fireman (for the Fairlie) and a few passengers and other figures for my passenger vehicles/layout and I'll post some photos of them once they have arrive and have been painted.

I'd just like to wish everyone a happy and modelling filled new year!

J
Title: Re: Backwoods Double Fairlie
Post by: jaymzhatstand on February 17, 2010, 18:17
A bit of progress to report.

The second bogie has been fitted with it's bearings and the lay-shafts for the gears have been cut to length and the gears Loctited in place.  I've also made a start on the main body frame and this has now been bent to shape (which was a bit of a task!  In the end I made a simple jig, and lo and behold, it went right first time!)

The photo doesn't show all of the current progress, but it gives a good idea!

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J
Title: Re: Backwoods Double Fairlie
Post by: jaymzhatstand on June 11, 2010, 10:27
I've been tinkering with the body of my Double Fairlie, and have come up against a bit of a problem regarding the motor and it's mounting.

Fitting it is no problem, but it can only be done once the motor mount assembly is fitted to the body, and needs to be done before the cab and second pair of tanks are fitted. The problem this poses is thus; once the motor is fitted I will be unable to wash the flux off and subsequent building stages, of which there are many as this would involve getting some form of cleaning fluid into the motor and I'm not sure this would do it much good!

Does anyone else have any advice as to how I can get around this problem?

I can't fit the motor to the mount separately and then fit it to the body later as it goes in from underneath, and the spars which form part of the strenghtening for the frames preclude this. Here are some photos which I hope will help describe this further.

The motor in place temporarily. The firebox etchings and details will fit over this to form the cab interior.
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Looking between the tanks to the mounting screws, these need to be accessible to fit tho motor, so the rest of the bodywork cannot be built before this is done
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The mount before the motor goes in
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The spars which preclude the motor being fitted from below
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The motor mount
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Any advice or help will be gratefully recieved

Cheers

J
Title: Re: Backwoods Double Fairlie
Post by: pilotfriend on June 11, 2010, 15:41
This is a typical Backwoods deal....almost impossible to maintain. Many times I have put Backwoods locos in an ultrasonic bath, motor and all, with water and a bit of detergent, then distilled water and have never had a problem. Just leave to thing to really dry in an airing cupboard for about three days before firing it up.
Title: Re: Backwoods Double Fairlie
Post by: Chris Veitch on June 11, 2010, 17:11
You may want to have a look at Nick Welch's "Festiniog Odyssey", just published by RCL at
Title: Re: Backwoods Double Fairlie
Post by: jaymzhatstand on June 11, 2010, 19:09
I was thinking about cleaning it with the motor installed, but I'm just a little cautious about the motor getting wet (and then subsequent lubrication of it).

That does look like rather a good bit of reading, but it may have to wait until my birthday in November, which is still rather a way off!

Cheers for those hints though

J
Title: Re: Backwoods Double Fairlie
Post by: Isle of Stoner on June 12, 2010, 11:30
Nick's book is excellent reading and is not only entertaining and an inspiration but is full of useful ideas.

Available from the FR shop too...
Title: Re: Backwoods Double Fairlie
Post by: pfwebb on June 27, 2012, 12:06
This may be a bit late but I suggest that you contact Pete at Backwoods and get the universal joints for the drive shaft and the pickups fitted to Taliesin.  These are easier to fit, allow removal of the bogies after construction and are a better enginering solution.  I speak from experience!
Title: Re: Backwoods Double Fairlie
Post by: jaymzhatstand on June 27, 2012, 16:55
Thanks, the boxing I have is the later updated one, which already has these updates in it.  There isn't any progress to report, other than I made a hash of the frames, so had to get some replacement ones, and I'm a little wary of starting again!  I'll have a go at some point though!

Cheers

J