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Title: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on January 17, 2019, 04:07
Hello everyone,

I have started my second layout which will be an 00 and 009 exhibition layout set in Boisleux au Mont, France in 1917. 20 Casualty Clearing Station supported the 46th North Midland Division and many of the soldiers from the village where I was born served in this division. Several of them did not return.

My first ever layout was in June when I built a Thomas layout for a child's birthday. I enjoyed it so much I thought I would build one for myself. I am combining my interests of WWI and military trauma care (I was an army medic).

I am using a 5ft x 3ft 9mm plywood baseboard, covered in cork with support to stop it warping. I experimented with various track plans before deciding on this. The 00 is because I needed to have an ambulance train siding to take casualties further down the evacuation route and 009 to bring them in from the front, along with horse drawn and motor ambulances and buses for the walking wounded.

Here are my plans which I have largely stuck to.

(tried the image code but it didn't show photo)


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1agC3o2_HFLI88cTCiUiZEPOR7-Q6qpBa/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MxqkP325pEMcF0KaZWsDJQAnF1yLfHIj/view?usp=sharing


Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: JulienW on January 17, 2019, 09:56
Good to meet you at the group meeting on Monday.

That certainly looks promising Michael and I shall watch progress with interest.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: B.Meldon on January 17, 2019, 10:12
I woulds recomend that you try and use the 12 inch electrofrog 009 points rather than the 9 inch dead frog set track 009 points.
You do have the space to use these on this layout and you may find that locos stall on the dead section if you use the dead frog points.

Brian Meldon
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on January 17, 2019, 13:12
Looking forward to future posts on your progress.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on January 17, 2019, 14:19
Quote from: B.Meldon on January 17, 2019, 10:12
I woulds recomend that you try and use the 12 inch electrofrog 009 points rather than the 9 inch dead frog set track 009 points.
You do have the space to use these on this layout and you may find that locos stall on the dead section if you use the dead frog points.

Brian Meldon

Hi Brian, I had already put them on the board. I am very new to this and bought the standard Peco set track which I think are dead points. I have had some issues with one of the points but the other is ok. The issue seems to be on just one rail. If I spend time getting the loco around the point, it works every time. If I change the point back again, I start all over again. The other point always works ok. After going to my first regional meeting the other night, I have started to build a test layout and have tested all my locos on it and they work ok.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on January 17, 2019, 14:20
Quote from: JulienW on January 17, 2019, 09:56
Good to meet you at the group meeting on Monday.

That certainly looks promising Michael and I shall watch progress with interest.
Thank you Julien. I enjoyed meeting everyone. There is a lot of knowledge in that room.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on January 17, 2019, 14:21
Quote from: Jeff Schumaker on January 17, 2019, 13:12
Looking forward to future posts on your progress.

Jeff S.

Thanks Jeff
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on January 17, 2019, 14:28
Once the track was decided I tried out a few buildings and even a background made up of WWI photos but the scale was out so I decided on a sky background. I then added roads.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iXv-385Pb1yLMxNCSym_fSh50xvg6mCm/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11lf5AfQHq_tYQQ_mAyMeqTEyGwLoI2LD/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YSHg6HOiWv5yxjybpSnKbnuokfogbl6X/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HO327kw5phDAQjzEYZN4R0cymyLAmAeG/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18JmgP_omWxQTBMqclIp96YEHk51deU4F/view?usp=sharing

I will add colour and texture to the road later.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: B.Meldon on January 17, 2019, 15:07
Quote from: Michael Hurt on January 17, 2019, 14:19

Hi Brian, I had already put them on the board. I am very new to this and bought the standard Peco set track which I think are dead points. I have had some issues with one of the points but the other is ok. The issue seems to be on just one rail. If I spend time getting the loco around the point, it works every time. If I change the point back again, I start all over again. The other point always works ok. After going to my first regional meeting the other night, I have started to build a test layout and have tested all my locos on it and they work ok.

The problem sounds like the blade to fixed rail electrical connection.
These often fail on the Peco 009 points. I always fit frog polarity switches on every electrofrog point because of this problem, just to make sure they are reliable.
You will find that they always appear to fail at the worst possible moment!

Brian Meldon
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on January 17, 2019, 15:21
Quote from: B.Meldon on January 17, 2019, 15:07
Quote from: Michael Hurt on January 17, 2019, 14:19

Hi Brian, I had already put them on the board. I am very new to this and bought the standard Peco set track which I think are dead points. I have had some issues with one of the points but the other is ok. The issue seems to be on just one rail. If I spend time getting the loco around the point, it works every time. If I change the point back again, I start all over again. The other point always works ok. After going to my first regional meeting the other night, I have started to build a test layout and have tested all my locos on it and they work ok.

The problem sounds like the blade to fixed rail electrical connection.
These often fail on the Peco 009 points. I always fit frog polarity switches on every electrofrog point because of this problem, just to make sure they are reliable.
You will find that they always appear to fail at the worst possible moment!

Brian Meldon

Hi Brian,

Yes it is that. That is where I press and it works straight away. I've tried cleaning it but seem to have ot do this every time.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on January 17, 2019, 22:58
Another update. This time showing some initial work on buildings in my ruined part of the village - The Germans blew them up as they retired to the Hindenburg Line and then shelled the area for the first few days the CCS set up the hospital

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18WzESl7jTpAVJ1CaXoeNNXmx2qmCh_Cl/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LAUtAuxPUcCZ3e8ziFelfy9mnTM-T6Mp/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BmAtsWkL9BvwIl8xHamTzcBPNOFvhMa-/view?usp=sharing

I built either side using polystyrene and shaped it with a hot knife and heat gun. To add strength and to make it easier to paint, I added a thin layer of plaster.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iTXKgygdN5A-nFlaCmBPMWO-_2hVqmsp/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14Gveel3j7JCb12FzAcLJwYXY9UPKPa7e/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JE86N6dOQQiMLZazXth0-Kigv2GUcC0r/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EH7zziRbFnTRQdYz5NRfN7eTjyrgrBjI/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Richard Pike on January 22, 2019, 13:57
Out of interest where did you get the ruined buildings from?
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on January 22, 2019, 20:03
Quote from: Richard Pike on January 22, 2019, 13:57
Out of interest where did you get the ruined buildings from?

Hi Richard,

They are all Airfix then I added the corrugated iron sheets (which still need finishes). The buildings are a sort of white resin when you buy them except one which is taken from a WWII kit. My first Youtube video shows them in their boxes.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on January 26, 2019, 18:04
I decided to put some dug-outs on the backscene to give a feeling of depth. I put a polystyrene bank and coated it with plaster to give it strength and make it easier to paint. I placed a colour photograph of a dug-out on the back scene to give the appearance of a 3D room from the dug-out window. I then added a Nissen Hut front to them and a light inside. I could add a dug-out to the left of the layout so opened the door of the dugout and put furniture inside.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19FdpqYFWs7LUc6wFdicq-RPuF6JTua_x/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gfMiuuJYtoJwid2zT6-MV3LoV2rhp8U4/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vx-O_6sYFTZThlM5obnbd4tjhzUafcn2/view?usp=sharing

It was then time to add some mud!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x1AM7W14FyF79W-lqkVWF6W1zJRDOLqN/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RLOjCI5mK8y5nBBxMcR2Lk1ieaXU3xiX/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gpJsRlmQakhK82IHTFx-ti4GvvyCHHC-/view?usp=sharing

Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on January 26, 2019, 20:42
Nicely done.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on January 27, 2019, 00:11
Quote from: Jeff Schumaker on January 26, 2019, 20:42
Nicely done.

Jeff S.

Thanks Jeff
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on February 03, 2019, 03:25
Preparing some trees to go onto the layout

Brown wood filler, PVA, paint & Chinchilla sand/dust

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1juYMWdVo0_nPigrqK3uPdcJOPA-QWubC/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14qi8eWbqhrYoE9U9O-a4hxtvCIGMmzWQ/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-v-JalWAZcMog9-FuP2B0rftb8oQXP4V/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s-Je_YFrMwQRnN-1J_Vp29LSnAve1KvD/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mLL2rREB_rEbc1EnXucU5Kbr6w-MZcD8/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V4XpKqeQ60iLbbTThF3NSlUoG70v3KVK/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vu4kARlSvBAXL3lSiq4R_0ndDerM1A46/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on February 04, 2019, 14:45
In the last photo, the trees look darker than in the previous ones. How did you achieve that?

Jeff S.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on February 06, 2019, 00:05
Quote from: Jeff Schumaker on February 04, 2019, 14:45
In the last photo, the trees look darker than in the previous ones. How did you achieve that?

Jeff S.

Hi Jeff,

I just added a wash with more black. It was very thin but some stuck
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on February 06, 2019, 13:02
Thanks for the info, Michael.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on February 06, 2019, 22:52
So finally I started to drill holes for lights and glue Nissen Huts down. The houses will have fires in them and the huts electric lighting but first they needed floor boards and some added corrugated iron to protect the troops form the elements a little.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GhRsrhvySKJ5bQr4zQoTJ7utqIsWvnrQ/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g_Gb-JafIwOAEnEkjv56PH-yPBUx6ltZ/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hA85iJMt005kF9iDNENgyfv99S5EyikS/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-4BhAe0Y1gVxiXhsH5B5QcjV1j-QSXno/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GUoxyu6woimJiHJVlPm0LQWhPFyXAgRj/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MwvqC89YbjE4ZM5P0qaMWNBT1qtDzof5/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_W-ig2Ld2PmGWaZsJe4sayRxvk_kwlat/view?usp=sharing


Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on February 23, 2019, 19:53
Time to glue the buildings in place and feed the wiring through

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kNAPBRrpWD_zbbF0mWa37ZIpxMJ7_UyI/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JAQHfvj1wfk2zueqoS0VfXyx6IS5FYiH/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MK5q64TeIgPCv4bJ-BcYA7ayGFVQ5qas/view?usp=sharing

A couple of my locos

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f4tcNr70dWhaP8UcVR-MRl3cBVJ2U1t0/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gcMqOvFI3zGCHjLYHdXstR__G1VqJmeH/view?usp=sharing

Brick rubble and road texture

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RwJ6BdWEB9tGhGsc0iVPOTep6vR1XEv0/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t3-FF58LxGE1bFY-Fuzoq9Kx6_gbTe2L/view?usp=sharing

Display lights

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zw_5dJ5C3Lc6Z0-A5VQxUunkUhLPxI7t/view?usp=sharing

Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: JulienW on February 23, 2019, 22:06
That's coming on really well!
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on February 24, 2019, 10:42
Very very atmospheric.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on February 24, 2019, 14:35
Very nice. Who is the maker of the display lights?

Jeff S.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on February 24, 2019, 21:18
Thank you everyone.

The lights are from Ikea
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on March 03, 2019, 21:17
My wiring is finally complete (almost), which means the fires and lights are lit!

I've also added some stock shelves to the back of the board and tried to disguise the entrance and exit from the main layout.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rm0c8bQKZMkqYyhgwMtt18SzSa5XNcMp/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nFGMClgScr0fwHja8dRmcwLbi9pl7Xr2/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e2BxvcQEGSsedEDqD9ktRQmz5fNRsrvQ/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Haxl-DdmnGuaXZ1vApsPoK8pLRciSxWJ/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fR5bpFpeeUfZCanAfh2rSSR8L8653aT7/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KDEi7ivKGZ8WlUvFz8qtszM4BK3Is1ow/view?usp=sharing

There's a running session of 009 towards the end of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Y4Yz-fBrQ

and lights on in this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrTntzfyIPs
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on March 04, 2019, 14:17
Nicely done, all around.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: paul ludlow on March 04, 2019, 23:12
Very nice. I really liked having a ride aboard one of your trains, a real journey back in time. Looking forward to the next instalment. Paul.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on March 06, 2019, 16:32
Thank you for the support.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SUO_PXlIGogG13FJ2GFgbu8esHOkKqlT/view?usp=sharing

The crane version of the traction engine was a repaint

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SLBMeSHKl0Czpz4XUuM7tr25ITMzS8HC/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jmyxF24PMDEkA1p__rrjqU4y9qLqGOIx/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1__rLQIsiBkpw_W1rizARHrOzkZhDElxQ/view?usp=sharing

The aeroplane engines have working electric motors.


My 00 and 009 test track:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l5B82tdYqRrPj85NLsu8LZb-daxu7QQX/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WOR5elprxs4vC9ADqS6BoMcvgh1CyEho/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1M-x56mK9hUYhj703LusRc6M0RWJdgNro

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m_Rz1sWbZdfG6zUHw1FA1O2LLcESQK_l/view?usp=sharing

I created a small photography area for the 009 locos.

Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on March 08, 2019, 12:41
Remarkable. 

I'm sure you've thought about this so I hope you won't mind me asking:  what about the shadows of the planes and trees on the 'sky'?  Are they cast by a ceiling lamp?  Will a lighting system be in the offing?

Keep up the good work!!
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on March 09, 2019, 02:11
Hi Tom,

That shadow could be the lights I have above the layout or the room light above it. Other than a second light, I may not be able ot do anything about that unfortunately.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on March 09, 2019, 22:37
Hello everyone. Well this week I've been painting and weathering a Royal Engineers workshop but that was the 00 part of the layout. I've also painted the tank, added another aircraft and painted my truck. I did paint two 009 locos which look ok, although they aren't finished. I am going to start my other three locos and rolling stock tomorrow all being well.

009 locos:    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hrcXb5qnTFvAWBZZdaGNcOblUO7K5V4T/view?usp=sharing

Mk IV Tank:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KUvFbAZwVJ0dMFRwQSE1tn51bRyTDOni/view?usp=sharing

Lorry:          https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vwzTqh0ShNYzUkgtn8kEDYSICSndDlS3/view?usp=sharing

For those who want to watch moving pictures and hear some dubbed sounds, go here but most of it is my RE workshop train:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYf0_V3rpio
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on April 07, 2019, 20:04
I have been working on some rolling stock and have had some issues with Bemo couplings being too think and causing a set of wheels to be in the air! I tried filing them then changed to Peco before finally using a set I bought from someone selling rolling stock kits. I still have a Dick Kerr, Simplex and Hunslett to build when I get the confidence :)

Here are some images of the layout and rolling stock. I will show half the links now and the others later.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UMqWSKaEPM5o9awGgr_pxrUz3vRx9mbE/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O1D5TzZhHaxUzIRkIpuTgSF8AEg3r8GL/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r-aWMAheihEKmVx39h5d9SLM30QZHur-/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18vQzxly0SnD9sigSj8C356K9zgF5GCUx/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oW009wqZ2kfHnYyyZWPogM_ZELi2K-oN/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GevW6mqFRzv0Kvct7-M_4eGzJOdlKysq/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12eefDMPWEC0rqqoqnNsnSTJo4uSz78M9/view?usp=sharing


Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on April 08, 2019, 01:07
Very nice.


Jeff S.
Title: Re: 20 Casualty Clearing Station WWI
Post by: Michael Hurt on April 08, 2019, 23:43
Thanks Jeff