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Modelling => Rolling stock => Topic started by: Tom Haythornthwaite on December 26, 2018, 17:19

Title: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on December 26, 2018, 17:19
[Sorry to anybody who gets the OO9 NEWS by post, and is perhaps waiting for the New Year's supply of postal sacks....]

Well done Brian for "52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2"!  Even though I doubt I'll never see any of these models in the flesh - and even though I know quality has moved onward - this history is important.
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: Hobby on December 27, 2018, 08:48
See here:

http://www.009society.com/forum/index.php?topic=3911.0
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: B.Meldon on December 27, 2018, 11:04
Quote from: Tom Haythornthwaite on December 26, 2018, 17:19

Well done Brian for "52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2"!  Even though I doubt I'll never see any of these models in the flesh - and even though I know quality has moved onward - this history is important.

Thanks Tom.

Apart from the layouts most of the other Jouef H0e items are quite easy to get. There are almost always examples on the 009 Society sales stand and others on e-bay. However getting all the variations may prove slightly more difficult and the two layouts are quite hard to find.

Brian Meldon

Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on December 27, 2018, 11:21
[I can't help noticing the Society Sales Stand rarely visits Ukraine....]
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: Hobby on December 27, 2018, 11:33
There's always the telephone or email...
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: B.Meldon on December 27, 2018, 11:50
Quote from: Tom Haythornthwaite on December 27, 2018, 11:21
[I can't help noticing the Society Sales Stand rarely visits Ukraine....]
If you are a member you can get a regular stock list via e-mail.

Brian Meldon
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: MickT on December 27, 2018, 12:52
To supplement Brian's advice above, email the Sales Team (contact details on page 22 of the current (January 2019 volume 46/4) issue under "009 Society Services" to get put on the mailing list. It is produced regularly - sometimes as regularly as twice a month and sometimes less frequently - dependant upon stock levels and time availability between taking the stock out, dealing with the mail order side of things etc of the Team members.

The mailing list service lists a selection of available items (it obviously cannot list everying due to rapid turnover, nor can it list a complete catalogue of what is lurking in the rummage trays etc). Sales from the list are dealt with strictly on first come first serve terms irrespective of the location of the member., ie no reserves, if you see something you want, then promptness in getting your order in is essential - some items go within hours. It doesn't matter whether you are in Wimborne, Dorset, half a mile from the sales team "base" or in your case, in Ukraine. The list goes out by email and you have as much chance of being head of the queue as anyone else, so this facility may well serve your needs admirably.

Unfortunately the "members wants list" service had to be closed some years ago now, but this does not stop a member sending an email with a query as to availability of certain items between published mailing listings. Just as an example, if you have been looking out for a particular locomotive or item/s of rolling stock or even something that may not normally be listed such as a particular controller etc, then an email requesting if such an item is in stock will often produce a result when the team do their "stuff" normally every Thursday morning (except Christmas week!!).

Hope this helps, sorry if I am preaching to the already converted!

Mick
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on December 27, 2018, 22:10
Thanks Mick and Brian,

I do get the list but what I really hope for is a nice show with the sales desk somewhere I can get to next time I'm in England (probably in June)!  I dream of seeing all those wonderful layouts first hand and rummaging through the sales....

Tom
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: Jim Flynn on January 01, 2019, 16:00
Mick,

I think your response is just a bit misleading. The sales list does NOT give members outside the UK equal opportunity. The lists are usually made up of what items did not sell at the last show the sales table has been to. So those who get to a show are do have a advantage.

It also comes out more on a erratic schedule, depending on what stock is available, and the volunteers time. Because it does not come at a regular schedule, one can not plan on seeing it as soon as it arrives, so does not have a chance at even the 'first come, first served' basis. If it was sent on the same day each month, then one would know it and could be waiting.

All this is not to say it is not a very good service, provided by the Society. It's just that it is much more of a value item for UK members that overseas ones.

I have bought from the Sales team, Brian was quite helpful, but the whole purchase took place via email over a period of about 2 weeks.

Jim F
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: Hobby on January 02, 2019, 09:05
Quote from: Jim Flynn on January 01, 2019, 16:00So those who get to a show are do have a advantage.

Which rules out a large number of UK members as well, Jim, especially as most NG shows are concentrated in the Midlands/South of England. Those in Scotland, for instance, are in the same boat as overseas members. Fact is, with turnover as quick as it is the method of sending an email as Mick suggests has just as much chance of being successful as turning up at one or two shows, if it ain't there, it ain't there! I was after a Uh for ages, never saw one for years and then i got lucky at Expong, if I hadn't been there exhibiting I'd have missed it! TBH I rather miss the old "wants" list for those rare items but I can understand why they stopped it, though it is frustrating at times when you are after a particular item but can't get to many shows...
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: Stan Williams on January 02, 2019, 09:55
Tom,

The Beds/Bucks Members  Day will take place in June this year,  layouts,  trade  and the  009  Sales Stand.

Look up the date and check whether it fits into your visit.

Stan.
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: Jim Flynn on January 02, 2019, 11:21
Quote from: Hobby on January 02, 2019, 09:05
Which rules out a large number of UK members as well, Jim, especially as most NG shows are concentrated in the Midlands/South of England. Those in Scotland, for instance, are in the same boat as overseas members.

I do tend to forget that folks in the UK don't seem to travel the way we do in the US, us being such a car culture. I have a friend in London who likes to go to Brighton, occasionally. She told me it's approx. 60 minutes by train, closer to 2 hours to drive? And she feels that's a fairly major trip. From our perspective, over here, that's no more that a trip to a mall. My wife and I will drive 4 hours on a Friday morning, to the coast, stay 2 nights and drive home Sunday afternoon. Of course, that's why we do not have the number of model rail events over here that takes place in the UK. We are too spread out.

Yes, having a 'wish list' would be great, but I also can understand why they don't.

Jim F
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: Hobby on January 02, 2019, 11:50
Except in a few parts of the UK where traffic is minimal it's not very nice driving over here these days either, Jim. When I go for our annual visit to Edinburgh I always start the trip from the Midlands early on a Sunday morning as that's the only time you can get a decent run up the M6/M74/M8/A702 (dependant on route taken!)... It's not too bad north of Kendal but once you hit the Edinburgh Bypass it's back to it's normal horrible self (and that's bearing in mind that Edinburgh traffic is much lighter than the South/Midlands of England!)... We are as heavily into cars as the US but haven't the space for them like you have!
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: clayliner on January 02, 2019, 19:46
Just to try and clarify Mick's comments somewhat, about the Sales Listings:

I think it's true to say they are not produced to any schedule, erratic or otherwise! They tend to appear when there is some stock which deserves the extra work and attention involved, e.g. the recent Windle loco collection. When a show or shows is/are imminent stock tends to be conserved for obvious reasons. If there is a pattern to them I think that Brian E. usually reckons to post them at midnight on a Sunday which certainly gives Antipodean members a good opportunity to get a look in before those running on GMT.

The listings should in no way be taken to reflect general stock (which is just too varied and constantly-changing to begin listing) so items like Jouef items are unlikely to feature, I think. While there may be no formal 'Wants' list these days Lee and the rest of the team have quite good memories so a request may eventually be fruitful even if not immediately so - the bottom line is simply to send an e-mail request and try your luck.

David.
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: Hobby on January 28, 2019, 09:32
If anyone needs help when viewing the OO9 Sales Stand (such as a person using a wheelchair) please go to one end or the other and call us across, we can see you there and help. At every show I've worked at there has always been access at at least one end (we need to get out as well as in!).
Title: Re: 52 YEARS OF JOUEF H0e PART 2
Post by: MickT on January 28, 2019, 12:16
Posting deleted - self moderating to try to keep this thread on-topic.