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Title: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: Terry Metcalfe on December 02, 2018, 08:33
i am in the course of constructing a logging layout.

Does anyone have any information about logging tramways in the uk and in particular the one at High Lodge (the tramway was on land owned by Downham Hall, Santon Downham, near Thetford).

I am intending to build a representation of this in 009. 
By the way my modelling has previous been in N gauge.  I have built a modern image layout base on Ely ( known as Neely) which has been in two magazines and exhibited mostly around East Anglia.

Any help would be acknowledged with thanks.

Regards

Terry Metcalfe
Soham
Title: Re: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: rod335 on December 02, 2018, 10:41
Beg borrow or steal a copy of 'The Kerry Tramway' by David Cox and Chris Krupa, published by Plateway Press. Probably now out of print. Apart from the Kerry Tramway about half the book is devoted to other logging lines in the UK. Most were (small) i/c powered if they had locos at all.
Title: Re: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: Chris Krupa on December 02, 2018, 13:27
Thanks for the plug.

Try this  https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&cm_sp=SearchF-_-home-_-Results&an=cox+and+krupa&tn=kerry+tramway&kn=&isbn=

Chris K
Title: Re: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: rod335 on December 16, 2018, 18:48
Intriguing how many of the copies for sale are in the US. Far more than uK copies. Plateway must have done good business there.
Title: Re: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: Terry Metcalfe on December 17, 2018, 08:31
I have made some progress. I nearly have a loop of track laid with a couple of points.  My progress is slow because, having had a stroke in January last, I have slowed down considerably and I take it slowly to avoid mistakes.

I would like to add a photograph but I will need step by step instructions.  I am using an iPad and already have my photos filed

Regards
Terry
Title: Re: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: B.Meldon on December 17, 2018, 11:11
Not the line you are after but there is some detail about other NG forestry lines in Northern Northumberland's Minor Railways Vol 1. by Roger Jermy. Including some photos.

Brian Meldon
Title: Re: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: B.Meldon on December 17, 2018, 11:18
It should perhaps be noted that the timber railway at Downham Hall, Santon Downham was 3 foot gauge.
It was operated by the Canadian Army for the Home Grown Timber Board, as part of the Ministry of Supply during the First world war.

There is some info on this web page:

http://santondownham.org/history/ww1ii/timber-railway/

and more in this article:

http://santondownham.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/FCA-March-06-SD.pdf

Brian Meldon
Title: Re: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: Stefan Krebs on December 21, 2018, 15:27
Slightly off topic, but to my memory there were 1 or 2 pictures and a mention in 'Narrow gauge at war'.  ???

If you'd asked me about US logging operations, I could help (They felled the Redwoods); and likewise for Austria (Waldbahnen in OEsterreich), and Germany (Muskauer Feldbahn, Feldbahnen in Deutschland; etc.), but I hope the others give you better support.

Have fun
Waldschrat
Title: Re: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: Terry Metcalfe on December 22, 2018, 18:21
Thank you for all your help.

Being a newcomer to this forum I am still finding my way around.  I would love to post some photos of my progress but I have no idea how to do this here. Perhaps someone could advise me
Title: Re: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: clayliner on December 22, 2018, 18:48
Posting photos (yes please!):

(1)  You first need to upload them to a photo-hosting website (this saves space on the forum which would otherwise soon run out of bandwidth-thingy). I've always used Flickr (still free for a good number of photos, but you need to set up an account first if you don't already have one) but others are available (or, alternatively, I think you could put them on your own website and work from there, but I have no experience of this).

(2)  Select the required photo from your albums or photostream (I'm using Flickr terminology as that's all I have experience of).

(3)  Click on the 'share' arrow alongside the photo, then select 'BB code' (bulletin board code) from the options shown, and the size of the photo you want - around 600 x 400 is about big enough for Society Forum posts.

(4)  The photo link will be shown highlighted in blue in the box: simply copy and paste this code just as it is into your post at the appropriate place. When your post is displayed then - hey presto! your photo will appear as if by magic.

If not, I've probably made a mistake somewhere in my instructions - my apologies, but I'm sure someone will soon point out where I've gone wrong!

TIP : If your text is quite long and there are a number of photos involved it may be easier to set up the entire post in Word or some similar program first, then insert the BB codes in the appropriate place(s) and then copy the entire item as one job lot into the 'reply/post' box here on the forum. Doing it this way gives more space to work in and means you can check for errors before posting.

Hope this helps.

David.
Title: Re: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: clayliner on December 24, 2018, 19:18
Since my last post I see that another (free) photo hosting alternative is Imgur (imgur.com).

It's recommended by none other than MickT, who is a proper photographer, so obviously knows what he's talking about...
Title: Re: High Lodge logging tramway
Post by: Stefan Krebs on January 28, 2019, 21:32
Just out of curiosity: what makes a 'proper photographer' an expert on copyright law and data privacy?   ::)
I'd be very careful with any hosting web-site, but even more with any that does freebie offers; they make there money somehow, and flogging your privacy is big business, very big indeed!  :(

But if you paid the money for a spy like Alexa in your home, no need to worry; you're most intimate privacy is already on the market, so not much further damage done with hosting web-sites.  ;D

Just some food for thought.
Waldschrat