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Modelling => Rolling stock => Topic started by: Alan Lautenslager on September 27, 2018, 18:51

Title: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: Alan Lautenslager on September 27, 2018, 18:51
Entered into the world of 009 about a month ago. Been modeling in HO and N for over 50 years. I am located in the US. Is there an area I can go on the internet where I can find drawings with dimensions for what we call rolling stock in the US? I think most use the term of wagons and so on. I have a couple of 3D printers along with a laser cutter and a card cutting machine and I enjoy making my own. Thanks for the help. Regards!
Title: Re: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on September 29, 2018, 09:04
Something to bear in mind is there are so many different loading gauges of the prototypes and 009 uses 9 mm track gauge and a scale of 4 mm : 1 ft to represent railways ranging from under 2 ft gauge to 2'6" and possibly more. Unless you are modelling a specific line to fine scale standards there can be an element at least of making models look in proportion irrespective of actual dimension.

A quick Google image search for "ffestiniog wagon dimensions" turns up a selection:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?biw=2048&bih=1005&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=hSavW8n6J8nTgAa29rCgBA&q=festiniog+wagon+dimensions&oq=festiniog+wagon+dimensions&gs_l=img.12...820325.820325.0.823347.1.1.0.0.0.0.95.95.1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.0.0....0.02x-yWr5FQU (https://www.google.co.uk/search?biw=2048&bih=1005&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=hSavW8n6J8nTgAa29rCgBA&q=festiniog+wagon+dimensions&oq=festiniog+wagon+dimensions&gs_l=img.12...820325.820325.0.823347.1.1.0.0.0.0.95.95.1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.0.0....0.02x-yWr5FQU)

- including obscurely enough this drawing of a Talyllyn coach!

http://www.talyllynrailwayshop.co.uk/ourshop/prod_3652268-TalyllynGlyn-Valley-Coach-No14-15-7mm-Scale-Drawing-250-including-postage.html (http://www.talyllynrailwayshop.co.uk/ourshop/prod_3652268-TalyllynGlyn-Valley-Coach-No14-15-7mm-Scale-Drawing-250-including-postage.html)

Substitute the NG railway of choice in a similar search and see what it turns up.  Have a hunt around to see what takes your fancy and then perhaps someone can point you to  drawings of specific prototypes.   :)


Title: Re: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: clayliner on September 29, 2018, 21:01
Hi, Alan-

Welcome to 009, this forum and (presumably) the 009 Society.

I'm certainly no expert but I'm sure Graeme is right in saying that narrow gauge covers a wide range of shapes and sizes and that your quest may be easier if you focus on a particular style of line first, and then go searching for specific information.

Hopefully you will find this forum helpful and we look forward to seeing the fruits of your labours (or even labors) in due course!

David.
Title: Re: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: Wallyrail on September 29, 2018, 21:42
Hi Alan

www.corris.co.uk has a plans section under shop where various loco, waggon, buildings and carriages can be downloaded on line
Title: Re: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on September 30, 2018, 09:09
Yes, it does seem that drawings are available - at a price!

The information on e.g. CaneSIG freely available to modellers of sugar cane railways is most enviable http://www.zelmeroz.com/canesig/ (http://www.zelmeroz.com/canesig/)

I could have said 009 covers an even wider range of prototype gauges because one of the Society's own specially commissioned kits is the Tralee and Dingle cattle wagon at 3 foot gauge.

If you are looking for some sort of  RTR benchmark, the Bachmann Thomas wagons  https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=258_259_972 (https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=258_259_972)  are based on or really just repainted versions of Peco's Lynton and Barnstaple models https://peco-uk.com/collections/4mm-oo/oo-9-9mm+peco?page=2 (https://peco-uk.com/collections/4mm-oo/oo-9-9mm+peco?page=2)

However, the prices of the Bachmann models is through the roof! Don't be fooled by Bachmann saying they are HOn30, they are 4 mm scale.

These models are of a "good size". At the other end of the size range, the Minitrains skips and stock based on skip chassis are on the more "petite" side. http://www.minitrains.eu/mt-freight.html (http://www.minitrains.eu/mt-freight.html)



Title: Re: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: Alan Lautenslager on September 30, 2018, 17:08
Thank you gents for the information and leads. As my background is US railroads I have no idea as to what to even call some of the pieces and the different roads that ran in the UK. Hence it makes it difficult to use a search  :)
I have a lot to learn here about the narrow gauges in the UK.

I plan to model 009 4mm.

Best regards
Alan
Title: Re: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: Alan Feldon on September 30, 2018, 17:12
have a look at the Dundas Models site .Andrew does a wide range of British stock both coaches and wagons.
Title: Re: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: Paul Alliet on September 30, 2018, 18:29
I'm in a similar situation to Alan Lautenslager --- a U. S. modeler interested in 009, but not about how or whether to proceed.  One question I have is whether any U. S. dealers stock 009 models and supplies.  I know there are some who have 00 structures and accessories, but apart from Bachmann I haven't been able to find any dealers.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
Title: Re: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: WALLSHIRTS on September 30, 2018, 23:32
Check out Caboose Hobbies, they have PECO crazy track and they also stock Minitrains. I know a place in Pennsylvania that has the PECO 009 points if you're in that area. Hobbylinc have the Bachmann Thomas engines.
Mal.
Title: Re: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: The Sales Team on October 02, 2018, 21:37

The 009 Society Sales operation is always happy to ship to members across the pond!

If you haven't yet signed up to receive the occasional Listings then we would suggest you do - there is little actually new stock but plenty of inspiration among the pre-owned and second-hand items, at great prices.

Just send an email to:   members-sales@009society.com   and ask to be added to the mailing list.

Please bear in mind that these Listings are not a list of all the items currently in stock, but a selected list of particular items we think we should bring to bring to members' attention at any given time, especially newly acquired items.

The Sales Team.



Title: Re: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: Paul Alliet on October 03, 2018, 13:29
Thank you Mal and sales team.  I'll check out the Caboose Hobbies website and see what they have in stock, and will request to be put on the mailing list.
Title: Re: Rolling Stock Help
Post by: David Hunt on February 10, 2020, 00:54
Hi Paul, another option is to contact Central Hobbies in Vancouver Canada. On their website you will see many items. David