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Modelling => Layouts => Topic started by: Tom Haythornthwaite on September 16, 2018, 17:54

Title: Turntable
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on September 16, 2018, 17:54
I'm thinking of incorporating a turntable into the Haythornthwaite & Westby Tea Station.  Assuming there are no ready 009 options I suppose my choices are an OO turntable (probably too long), an N gauge turntable (looking off-scale), or building my own 'visible' features onto some sort of mechanism.  Advice?
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: rod335 on September 16, 2018, 19:05
In reality turntables were expensive and unnecessary for most UK narrow gauge railways, which were almost always built and operated on a shoestring. The only NG railways I can think of offhand that had turntables were the |Glyn Valley (statutory requirement) the Festiniog and the Lynton and Barnstaple, neither of which made much, if any use of them. Most other railways didn't have, or indeed, need them. They were not operated like standard gauge lines with the rails closer together!
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on September 16, 2018, 19:17
Tom,

Check out http://www.kitwoodhillmodels.com/oo9-90mm-turntable/.

Usual disclaimers - I'm just a satisied customer.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on September 16, 2018, 19:36
Rod - point very well taken.  My H&WTR will be largely freelance (set in India) so I have given myself a lot of artistic license, but, again, point taken.

Jeff - thanks very much.  Interesting and tempting.
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: B.Meldon on September 17, 2018, 11:14
Turntables in 009 are not at all easy to make yourself.
The problems are with the electrical connections to the turntable and aligning the tracks both as it turns and vertically. Both have to be exactly correct or you will get problems.
So although a turntable may be desirable I would recommend against having one.

Brian Meldon
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: engerth399 on September 18, 2018, 07:09
I think Peco still do their 009 turntable, I was able to get the HOm version a couple of years ago.

Peter
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on September 19, 2018, 05:50
Thanks Brian.  I like a challenge so I'm definitely building one now.
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: clayliner on September 22, 2018, 14:17
Good for you, Tom! - you go for it. I've not tried it myself, but if I were starting from scratch I'd look out for something nice and circular to start with, like an old CD (size depending on the length of loco you'd be looking to turn). Supply to the tracks might be via wiper contacts from the main track or a separate lead, in which case you might want to turn it on a there-and back basis rather than always turning it in the same direction (in which case you'd get your cables in a twist, obviously).

I'm sure you'll manage to put something together but please keep us updated on progress so that we can all learn from your experience!

David.
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: cp.409067 on September 22, 2018, 15:39

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Avoid twisted wires by using a jack plug and socket for the central pivot AND to supply the rails.


CP
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: Mark Shenstone on September 22, 2018, 15:45
I might be stating the obvious but wouldn't Peco's N gauge well type turntable kit make a good starting point? Though that depends on how big your largest loco is going to be.
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: Turin 60 on September 22, 2018, 20:41
Quote from: cp.409067 on September 22, 2018, 15:39

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Avoid twisted wires by using a jack plug and socket for the central pivot AND to supply the rails.


CP

Good plug Chris!!!!

John.
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on September 24, 2018, 16:42
Thanks again, everybody.

Great progress has been made on the H&WTR turntable ... in my head.  The turntable well will be 82 mm in diameter (my largest hole cutter) which will accommodate the wheelbase of all my locos.  It's just for occasional turning of my locos (of course they are tank engines that don't need it) so it will be placed between my engine shed and the rest of a station - with just the two approach tracks 180
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: Chris Ford on October 25, 2018, 14:14
There is a two part article coming up in 009 News written by Colin Herrington on how he made a 009 specific turntable using a plastic lid as a foundation and a cheap Japanese motor powered through the normal controller. Jan/Feb issues.
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on October 25, 2018, 16:18
Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: Stan Williams on October 25, 2018, 16:40
Frizinghall Models,   FMR  from Baildon,  West Yorkshire.

They advertise in the 009 Newsletter.

Although purchased around 2005,  they supplied a turntable mech that fitted under a Peco N gauge turntable.

We have one on our Gairloch & Wester Ross layout with it slightly altered to look more 4mm scale.

It can be used electrically or manually  ie similar to a meccano mech.

We can get an  NG15 tender loco on the turntable.

Stan.
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: Steve Facknell on October 25, 2018, 22:38
Quote from: Chris Ford on October 25, 2018, 14:14
There is a two part article coming up in 009 News written by Colin Herrington on how he made a 009 specific turntable using a plastic lid as a foundation and a cheap Japanese motor powered through the normal controller. Jan/Feb issues.

Surely you mean inexpensive Chris? :police:
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: MickT on October 26, 2018, 11:51
Hi Steve,

Well, notwithstanding turntables, I think a competition may be in order entitled "What is Steve's name?" I always thought your name was Steve Fackrell, which at least is how we have it on the Wessex NGM NGSouth 2018 and last year's Colehill members day lists that I have. However not only does this forum call you Steve Facknell, but I notice the latest 009 News has you down (page 21) as Steve Fackerell!

Attention To Detail training day for all on the Committee needed?
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: clayliner on October 26, 2018, 15:31

Yes, Mick - that's something which has been worrying me for some time, too!!

How about a members' poll to decide what his name should be?!

David.
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: Neil McGrath on November 28, 2018, 20:05
Here is a good "How to make a turntable" article. I am tempted to make one myself!

http://www.carendt.com/articles/faq-make-a-turntable-from-a-cd/ (http://www.carendt.com/articles/faq-make-a-turntable-from-a-cd/)

Neil
Title: Re: Turntable
Post by: gastwo on December 22, 2018, 18:54
Quote from: Chris Ford on October 25, 2018, 14:14
There is a two part article coming up in 009 News written by Colin Herrington on how he made a 009 specific turntable using a plastic lid as a foundation and a cheap Japanese motor powered through the normal controller. Jan/Feb issues.
Can I add that we have two of Colin's turntables on the 'Teifi Gorge' layout, both hand-cranked and both operate faultlessly.
I commend them to the house.

Shaun.