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Modelling => Layouts => Topic started by: Andy Williams on July 30, 2018, 17:42

Title: New layout under construction
Post by: Andy Williams on July 30, 2018, 17:42
Just beginning to get going on the baseboard for my 009 layout. This may take some time but I've started!
Keeping things simple with one loco in steam but enabling a variety of stock (passenger and various goods) to move around between fiddle yard and viewing side. May make one of the fiddle yard roads into a cassette to change locos and stock easier.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1819/41932866160_9ea2c42bc2_z.jpg)
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on July 31, 2018, 07:17
Looks very good.  Having a pub is the main thing!

How much lower will the water be, and how are you managing that?

Looks
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: B.Meldon on July 31, 2018, 11:01
There are perhaps a few things to bear in mind.

Firstly most 009 couplings will not couple up on a curve so ensure all the areas where you intend to couple up (the loop in the station by the harbour for example) are on straight track.

Secondly you need to ensure that all the couplings on your locos and rolling stock will work ok on the reverse curves on your planned layout. If not, then you may have to re-design the layout or modify the couplings that are causing problems.

Finally, if you are using dead (plastic) frog points it is worth making sure that all your locos run through them ok without stalling at slow speeds. (Older four wheel pick up locos tend to be the worst.)
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on July 31, 2018, 11:24
It looks very smart - what software did you use to draw it?
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Andy Williams on July 31, 2018, 22:03
Quote from: Tom Haythornthwaite on July 31, 2018, 07:17
Looks very good.  Having a pub is the main thing!

How much lower will the water be, and how are you managing that?

Looks

Hi Tom
I
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Andy Williams on July 31, 2018, 22:06
Quote from: B.Meldon on July 31, 2018, 11:01
There are perhaps a few things to bear in mind.

Firstly most 009 couplings will not couple up on a curve so ensure all the areas where you intend to couple up (the loop in the station by the harbour for example) are on straight track.

Secondly you need to ensure that all the couplings on your locos and rolling stock will work ok on the reverse curves on your planned layout. If not, then you may have to re-design the layout or modify the couplings that are causing problems.

Finally, if you are using dead (plastic) frog points it is worth making sure that all your locos run through them ok without stalling at slow speeds. (Older four wheel pick up locos tend to be the worst.)

Thanks for your advice Brian.
I
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Andy Williams on July 31, 2018, 22:07
Quote from: GraemeD on July 31, 2018, 11:24
It looks very smart - what software did you use to draw it?

Thanks Graeme.
I used Railmodeller Pro. One of the few programme that work on Apple Macs.
Andy
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: clayliner on August 01, 2018, 21:35
2 cm scales out at around 5 feet, so probably comfortably less than high tide. But any vessels may well come above the harbour wall, though that's not necessarily a problem.

David.
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on August 02, 2018, 07:20
If the height is likely to be too small, is adding another layer of foam practical?
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Andy Williams on August 02, 2018, 13:43
Maybe able to get another 1cm. Will model as high tide anyway so will hopefully look ok.
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Andy Williams on August 22, 2018, 15:24
The baseboard has now been built and infilled with insulation foam to aid landscaping.
I've just test laid the track with 100% printouts for the flexitrack to test the concept and the plan seems to work.
The bridge on the left will be the scenic break there and the track will rise slightly over the river and back down again roughly where the abutments are laid down on the right.
Looks like I may have cut a bit too much foam out for the harbour. Will wait to see how it looks with the resin harbour walls I've ordered and fill in as necessary.
All seems to work so now will have to get the flexitrack cut. That will have to wait until I'm back from 2 weeks holiday through!

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1863/43479963664_75f91979fb_c.jpg)
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Tom Haythornthwaite on August 22, 2018, 18:48
You'll have it finished in your head before you're back in reality!
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Andy Williams on August 23, 2018, 08:28
Tom I finished it in my head when I'd made the baseboard!
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: JulienW on August 23, 2018, 08:38
Looking at the point on the left hand end of the loop you may be better off using a left handed point to ease the curve / remove the reverse curve along the front of the loop.

Other than that it's looking good, and I'll watch this one with interest.
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: B.Meldon on August 23, 2018, 13:19
I agree with Julien.
(I can not believe someone else commented about a reverse curve!!!!)

Brian Meldon
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Andy Williams on August 23, 2018, 15:21
Thanks Julien and Brian
I think the angle of the photo makes it look worse than it is.
I will have some practice running before fully fixing the track down so I can always adjust if it doesn't work well.

Andy
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: JulienW on August 24, 2018, 08:37
Quote from: B.Meldon on August 23, 2018, 13:19
I agree with Julien.
(I can not believe someone else commented about a reverse curve!!!!)

Brian Meldon

:laugh:
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: B.Meldon on August 24, 2018, 10:08
Quote from: Andy Williams on August 23, 2018, 15:21
Thanks Julien and Brian
I think the angle of the photo makes it look worse than it is.
I will have some practice running before fully fixing the track down so I can always adjust if it doesn't work well.

Andy

It will be the couplings that cause problems with reverse curves. But what ever the outcome a left hand point would look better at the left hand end of the station loop.

Brian Meldon
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: MickT on August 24, 2018, 11:49
Quote from: B.Meldon on August 23, 2018, 13:19
(I can not believe someone else commented about a reverse curve!!!!)

The message is slowly but surely spreading Brian - Result!   ;D
Title: Re: New layout under construction
Post by: Hobby on August 24, 2018, 12:54
It's just that trains look so nice snaking through the reverse curves! ;)