From when my Parents gave me my first train set for a Christmas present as a child, I have had an interest in model railways. I originally started in "OO" gauge, but have also built in "N" and "O" gauge. The last layout I built was my exhibition layout "Holmehurst" which was in "O" gauge, and I exhibited it around the country. Photos of it can be seen at http://www.gwr.org.uk/layoutsholmehurst1.html.
I inherited some "OO9" rolling stock from my late father, and ever since living on our working narrowboat "Hadar" I have been thinking about building a "OO9" layout as space on a narrowboat is very limited and "OO9" takes up very little space.
I had thought about building a layout in our garden alongside our mooring at the Saltisford Canal Centre, but after much thought decided that this would not be practical as the site is open the public and damage may be caused to it when we are away from the mooring. However I built a small "OO9" layout which sits on the shelf above the display cabinet, in our saloon, which houses my "O" gauge rolling stock. Having finished it, my wife Jo suggested that when we stop selling coal I could build a layout in the hold. As we stopped selling coal at the end of 2016, I am now planning the layout. This build (including work on the boat to accommodate the layout) can be followed at the following BLOG https://hadarford.blogspot.co.uk/.
This is a photo of the little railway above the display cabinet.
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Regards Keith Lodge
Very interesting. Can I ask if it is removable or permanent and is it built in situ or installed after building?
Danny
Do you mean the little layout in the photo, or the one I am going to build?
This is an interesting build.
Please do post more photos on this forum.
If you want to know all about the little black No4 diesel loco you just purchased see page 15 of the October 2013 009 News, that just happens to be the example that is available to view on the Society web site:
http://www.009society.com/october2013.pdf
Since I wrote that article I have found out a little more about the origins of the model.
After finding the photo below a few years ago I have since been told that the origins of the eventual design of the cab were indeed based on this loco, a 1903 Baldwin-Westinghouse electric, photographed when new without its connection pole. However I was told that original intension was to model a battery loco, but it was thought it would have limited appeal so the exhaust pipe was added to the roof of the concept prototype even if there is no obvious location for the diesel engine or radiators!
(https://forum.009society.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmexlist.com%2Fpenoles%2Fphoto22.jpg&hash=24fb0ece75971cd30f7330d9f6096fa80cec18a2)
I also now know that the original hand made prototype for this Egger-bahn model that the early catalogue illustrations were based on survives in a private collection. I do have a couple of photos of this model, but they are not my photos so I can not upload them.
Brian Meldon
Quote from: Keith Lodge on January 24, 2018, 11:35
Do you mean the little layout in the photo, or the one I am going to build?
The little layout although both are interesting.
Quote from: B.Meldon on January 24, 2018, 13:46
This is an interesting build.
Please do post more photos on this forum.
If you want to know all about the little black No4 diesel loco you just purchased see page 15 of the October 2013 009 News, that just happens to be the example that is available to view on the Society web site:
http://www.009society.com/october2013.pdf
Since I wrote that article I have found out a little more about the origins of the model.
After finding the photo below a few years ago I have since been told that the origins of the eventual design of the cab were indeed based on this loco, a 1903 Baldwin-Westinghouse electric, photographed when new without its connection pole. However I was told that original intension was to model a battery loco, but it was thought it would have limited appeal so the exhaust pipe was added to the roof of the concept prototype even if there is no obvious location for the diesel engine or radiators!
(https://forum.009society.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmexlist.com%2Fpenoles%2Fphoto22.jpg&hash=24fb0ece75971cd30f7330d9f6096fa80cec18a2)
I also now know that the original had made prototype for this Egger-bahn model that the early catalogue illustrations were based on survives in a private collection. I do have a couple of photos of this model, but they are not my photos so I can not upload them.
Brian Meldon
It would be interesting to know how they got from that to the model which has the open, 'wooden' bit at the back of a slightly shorter cab.
Danny
Quote from: danny on January 24, 2018, 17:40
It would be interesting to know how they got from that to the model which has the open, 'wooden' bit at the back of a slightly shorter cab.
Danny
Theodor Egger and Wolfram Ziegler designed the first four Egger-bahn locos around the size of the Nanoperm motor available from Marx and the size of the chassis they had developed. Although convincing looking all four were freelance designs, but incorporating some detail features from actual locomotives. Some more than others, the no3 electric loco design was based on the front end of a GER E44 standard gauge electric loco for example and as mentioned the cab of the contractors loco based on that from a photo of a Baldwin electric! It was only with the No5 that the first attempt was made to model an actual loco, that failed somewhat because of its shortened length and pressure to speed up production, the tram loco developed in association with Lima was as close as they got to an actual scale model, with the steam railcar, the last Egger-bahn loco to be developed and produced, more of a caricature of the prototype and way too short.
I have no idea where the idea for the seat section on the No4 loco came from, but it was on the early drawings of what was going to be a battery electric loco, perhaps it was just a desire to make it look different from the No1 diesel?? We may never know.
Brian Meldon
Quote from: danny on January 24, 2018, 17:40
Quote from: Keith Lodge on January 24, 2018, 11:35
Do you mean the little layout in the photo, or the one I am going to build?
The little layout although both are interesting.
Hello Danny, the little layout is not fixed, for maintenance purposes. It was built mostly in the galley on the worktop.
Quote from: B.Meldon on January 24, 2018, 13:46
This is an interesting build.
Please do post more photos on this forum.
If you want to know all about the little black No4 diesel loco you just purchased see page 15 of the October 2013 009 News, that just happens to be the example that is available to view on the Society web site:
Many thanks Brian, a very useful article. I will certainly post some more photos of the little layout and the building of it, and the new layout once I start building it.