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Title: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: gtmspyder on October 01, 2017, 18:06
An overall view of a scene on my new layout which is a tribute to Ted Pollets "Nixne" layout, but rendered in 0-16.5 which I found easier to model in after disposing of my 009 Glen Ogle layout.

I know that this is not the right forum for this scale/gauge, but I frequented these pages for many posts with Glen Ogle, and thought that members might be interested in my current activities.

If members do not want to sully this forum with this scale gauge, I'm sure that members will let me know and I will bow out gracefully, as ever.

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This view is of the station halt side of the double sided layout, looking back towards a tunnel entrance from the industrial side of the layout, showing the very nice back scene purchased from the Gaugemaster range of back scenes, and the laser cut waiting shelter and signal box and a card constructed Monumental Masons come undertakers business, witch has  the necessary off scene exit required to a fiddle yard.

Regards,

BrianT.
Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: gtmspyder on October 05, 2017, 14:14
Hello fellow modellers.

So far, 46 members have viewed my new post re my new model, Knottworthy Magna, and no one has replied, so I think I can safely assume, that as it is not a 009 model, It has generated no interest.

I know this is a forum dedicated to 009 modelling, and my new model is 0-16.5, but as a I am member of the 009 society, and this model is dedicated to a well known 009 modeller, Mr Ted Pollet and is based on his "Nixne layout", I expected some interest to be generated, well one lives and learns.

Regards,

BrianT.
Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: B.Meldon on October 05, 2017, 15:53
I have found that I just cannot think in other scales! I guess it is down to spending a lifetime working in 00/H0 scale.
I look at a 7mm NG layout and just see an oversize standard gauge train!
I had a go building a small partly scratch built railcar in 7mm for a friend a few years ago and just found it so difficult to visualise the size!
Never again, it is 00/H0 for me from now on.

Personally I think it would be best to limit the posts on this forum to H0 and 00 scale and avoid other scales, I am sure they must have their own forum??

But that is just me, others may think differently and it is not up to me.

Brian Meldon
Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on October 05, 2017, 16:59
Brian T,

If you had not mentioned the scale, would anyone be able to tell? BTW, I like what I've seen in the few photos you've posted.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: Elmgate on October 06, 2017, 10:43
Brian,

I had not seen this until today; however, the problem with this Forum is, unlike the NGRMO, we cannot simply give a "Like" to say that we have seen a post, enjoyed it, but have nothing particular to add.

However, please show photos of the other side of your layout - there is obviously more to come! :)

Best wishes,

Tim
Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: gtmspyder on October 06, 2017, 19:50
Hello Tim, On your head be it ;D.

After disposing of my Glen ogle layout, I had another small stroke, nothing serious other than a loss of mobility, but it was being made clear to me that I could no longer do what I wanted to do in a lot of instances, and if I was to be able to continue modelling, I would have to accommodate my bodies frailties and inabilities, so I decided to change scales and move up to a larger scale, so I chose 7mm narrow gauge.

I am no longer as sharp mentally as I have been in the past, my short term memory is very poor, and the ability to apply any mental agility to any subject is virtually extinct, sad innit ;D.

So I decided to cheat, and piggy back on the abilities of others.

I wanted to model, I wanted something small, and I have long admired Ted Pollets abilities and his lovely little model "Nixne", so I decided to copy it, but in 7mm scale to help my receding abilities.
Some where I saw a reference to something not being worthy of something or other, so I have decided to call my copy of Ted's work "Knottworthy Magna", as a tribute to this fine modeller.
Obviously mine is not an exact copy, but I think/hope that elements of Ted's work will carry over onto "Knottworthy Magna". ::)

So I hope that is sufficient explanation of my reasoning, and does not offend.

There is fully detailed rendering of the ups and downs of this layouts construction on the NGRM forum, but I will post a condensed version on here.

I had a 6ft by 2ft by 2inch thick piece of blue dense foam, whose name escapes me, and I have tried to build my layout on a 4ft by 2ft section of this, but it soon became obvious that in 7mm scale, I would not be able to accommodate the necessary elements of Nixne, so I added six inches to the length, and this is the beginnings of Knottworthy Magna with Peco 7mm narrow gauge track and pointwork which is 16.5 mm gauge, ie 00.

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The foam was clad both sides with heavy duty lining paper, wall paper pasted to it's surface, and  fitted into a 4inch deep frame, with a 1inch x 1inch lath supporting it along all four sides, such that it was flush with the top, and leaving a void bellow to accommodate point motors and the like, and accommodate the drop scenery section required for the river bed at one end.  This picture shows this state of play before I reduced the overall length.

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The track at this stage is pinned to the foam with dressmakers pins pushed through holes drilled through the sleepers and into the blue foam, and the configuration is nearly in its completed form, with the short spur off scene in the corner to accommodate a fiddle yard maybe?

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At each end I attached a piece of 6mm MDF, with a piece of 6mm MDF joining them down the centre  to act as a back scene, with holes through the back scene to allow the track to pass through from side to side.  There are some of the elements of the scenery all ready starting to make an appearance in this picture.

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The position of the  river has been cut out at the corner diagonally opposite to the short fiddle yard spur, the sleepers removed from the Peco narrow gauge track, ready to allow the track to be glued to the proposed trestle bridge deck, and a piece of 6mm MDF glued to the bottom of the foam upon which the riverbed will be modelled.

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Here a Chivers "Finelines" 7mm NG van kit is being pushed over the track as a test.  These are generic vehicles of general narrow gauge stock I had purchased as a test purchase at the Rainhill 009  of the show I had visited.

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The riverbed is taking shape, the bridge decking is in place, and my complete 7mm narrow gauge assembly of rolling stock is being trundled round behind a diesel loco I have made from a kit, under radio control.

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The trestle bents under construction using the offcut piece of foam as an assembly aid allowing me to secure the pieces of wood in place over the drawing I have drawn onto the paper of the foam, by sticking pins at the sides of the timber lengths until the glue dries.

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At each river bank, a scribed DAS covered piece of 2" x 1" softwood off cut, will form the bankside bridge support, with two wooden trestles supporting the midst stream section of the bridge decking.  The stone work of the bankside supports has been tinted with water colour and thin coat of varnish applied, and the two midsection trestle bents have been stained black.

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And here they are in place.

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The riverbed has acquired a series of frothy water at the cascades in this view under the bridge, a coat of varnish, and some unnoticed subsidence during construction at the right hand river bank, which annoyingly,  had to be rectified later.

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The riverbanks have acquired some greenery, and an out of scale tree in the background.

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Back to the scenery modelling and a tunnel had to be formed to hide the transition through the back scene fro one side of the layout to the other, so Ireverted to my squirty foam process, and proceeded to create a hill and a tunnel for the transition.  The backscene board and track was covered in cling film, a temporary tunnel liner placed over the track, and foam was squirted in place, allowed to set, then cut and carved, and this is the result ready for finishing with polyfiller and scenic greenery.

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Here we have the foam hill, a tunnel entrance formed with scribed and water colour tinted Das, and acrylic green painted base coat to the landscape.

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The addition to the river bed has been formed in the foam hill, and takes the river off scene under the canopy of a large tree I have to make.

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The river has started to sprout some reeds or bulrushes from it's banks.

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The trestle bridge tunnel entrance.

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Leads through to the station halt side of the layout and more of the foam formed scenery, with the passing loop of the station halt just appearing.

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The trestle bridge track work has acquired a check rail and a smoky Joe chassis'd part finished loco is just testing the safety aspects of this addition.  The riverbed has sprout yet more of the reeds at the waters edge, which have yet to be pruned back to a more realistic height.

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The trestle bridge side of the layout is the industrial scene side, and this is the early proliferation of the industry, some thing I am not wholly satisfied with, because I really don't know what they make there?  You will see shading the banks of the river in the back ground one of the trees I have made for that position, this is a wire armature with wire wool greenery sprayed in green and covered in scenic flock.

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so now, you have had a glimpse of both sides of the long way from finished Knottworthy Magna layout, and can see why Knottworthy is an appropriate title for this blatant copy of "Nixne ".

Regards,
BrianT,









Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: paul ludlow on October 06, 2017, 23:03
Brian, great to see that your still keen and still modelling, even if in the wrong scale!!! if 7mm helps you to stay involved in narrow gauge, then good on you. i model in 4mm, but can still gain enthusiasm from seeing your efforts and i can still get ideas having seen what you've done. keep posting and i will keep looking, regards, Paul.
Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: WALLSHIRTS on October 07, 2017, 00:14
"Like"
Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: Hugh Norwood on October 07, 2017, 15:13
I'll put a "Like" here, too.
Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: gtmspyder on October 08, 2017, 22:23
I thought the tree construction might be of interest?

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I wanted some large trees to hide various entry and exit points through the central back scene of Knottworthy Magna, so I started to manufacture some using the wire armature method oft described in various locations of the modelling press and forums, and this is my method.

The core of the tree, or its trunk, is made up of some suitable soft iron wire, that can be bent and twisted into a tree-like shape, and clad in some method to represent the foliage.

I opted to use some gauge unknown wire covered in green plastic, sold in most garden centres as support wire up which, you can grow various plants such as climbing roses or Clematis and the like. I would put the overall thickness of wire and plastic coverage at about 1.5 to 2mm diameter, very easily bent as required.

I thought the overall height of the required tree would need to be 225mm in height with a further 25mm at its base to use as a support spigot with which to stick in the base board/ground as a support.

As this was to be the supposed trunk, it had to be increased in diameter from the single strand of wire, and to this end, I cut 12 lengths of the wire at 200mm, with 2 additional lengths at 225 mm, which were to be the ground spike of the finished tree.

The 14 lengths were then laid sided by side with the 2 longer lengths protruding beyond one end, this was to be the root end of the tree.

During my oft visits to our many local garden centres for the sustaining cup of tea and a sticky bun, and the occasional plant, I found a lot of the garden centres had a Rolson company stand that sold basically rubbish tools and the such like, along with small plastic boxes of nuts and bolts, split pins, washers and other useful crap that act as a Round-to-it source of things that might come in handy someday, and one of these boxes held an assortment of short lengths of black shrink wrap of various diameters, which I had duly purchased.

From this selection, I selected a diameter that would encompass the 14 lengths of garden wire, I cut a length long enough to go from the tree ground level upto the first series of branch positions, leaving the 25mm support spigot pair protruding, and then applied heat to shrink the heat shrink, which nicely tightened around the 14 lengths of wire, and here I had my first length of tree trunk.

I then selected 4 of the outer wires at equidistance around the trunk, and bent each at 90 degrees to form the first series of branches.

Then I wrapped masking tape around the 10 remaining strands of wire upto the next tree branch position, to help maintain the same trunk diameter, and slipped another length of shrink wrap over the tape and 10 strands of wire, and shrunk this down to size to entrap the wires and masking tape.   With a bit of luck this will give you a thickness of trunk to match the earlier thickness, and thus you can continue to progress up the tree, slightly reducing the trunk thickness by less tape and a smaller diameter of shrink wrap from the selection box.

This will leave you with 2 wire strands at the top of your tree in the example I have described.

Each of the branches will require thickening up by taping and shrink wrapping as appropriate to each branch position.

I then mentioned on the forum here, a need for a suitable material that I could apply to the trunk and branches, that could be applied and coloured tree trunk-ish colours, that was flexible enough to withstand being bent and manoeuvred into shape as required to resemble a tree, and Harry Mantheakis told me of a suitable material, "Liquitex",  and a supplier that I might find suitable for my needs, which I bought and used,  (thank you Harry)

This first picture shows the tree trunk at this stage of its construction, with the as supplied, white Liquitex painted onto the trunk and each branch, I initialy added a little black colouring to the white Liquitex, and set the wire armature to one side to dry

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As you can see from this rather cruel close up, I was not totally successful in achieving a uniform trunk diameter as I progressed up the trunk.
I should also point out that a little pre-planning of total number of branches required or desired, should be ascertained and decided, and the total number and lengths of wire cut in readiness before commencing the build if you want a more uniform shape to emerge at the end of the exercise than I have achieved.

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The foliage I am using is a method that has been in use long before the materials available now, and is a hank of wire wool, carefully teased out to give a filmy covering over the spread of the wire armature, and carefully laid over all the branches like an Ena Sharples hairnet.
I should perhaps point out that wire wool is extremely flammable, and a 9volt battery dropped onto that lovely hank of wire wool would have seen it flare into quite a fierce fire, think of the old flash bulbs which were ignited in just such a way, so please be care full if this phenomena was unknown to you.

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The teased out wire wool was then sprayed with a rattle can of green paint from above and below the canopy of wire wool.
Not the best shade of green, but this I happened to have in stock, and there is more to be done yet before this can be considered finished.

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Here the part finished tree has been placed on the layout to shade the trestle bridge tunnel mouth and river Knott to check it's ability to hide the river source.

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And here's a further view of it more or less in position.

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The foliage has yet to have a further colour coating of a better green spray colour, then a sprinkling of scatter over a good covering of sticky cheap ladies hair spray to make it stick.  The tree has had more work to the branches and trunk in as much as a further covering has been added to the bark to thicken and smooth it, and remove the inconsistent diameters.  Here it has been stripped of it's trial covering of wire wool leaves to show the coloured Liquitex covering of the wire armature. The branches are now a more consistent diameter, and I have stuck the extended wire spigot into a supporting block of wood while I work on it.

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It's covering of foliage has been lifted off, and the green sprayed teased out wire wool laid on a piece of paper while I spray with hair spray and sprinkle green flock over it.

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The hair spry trick was not a total success, because after giving it time to dry, and lifting the resultant green mat onto the supporting branches, a lot of the green flock fell onto the spread paper.
Needless to say, all this spraying and sprinkling resulted in a lot of scattered greenery, luckily collected by the protective paper, so could be collected and re-used.

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And here we have the first 7mm scale tree for Knottworthy Magna.

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Regards,

BrianT.



Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: gtmspyder on October 08, 2017, 23:26
I forgot to show the completed tree in it's ultimate position on the industrial side of Knottworthy Magna, shading the head of the river Knott, the tunnel mouth and trestle bridge.

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Regards,

BrianT.
Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: Roger Sisley on October 09, 2018, 14:39
Being new to this forum lark I thought I would put my spoke in. A lovely set of pictures and explanation of how you did it straight to the point. My main thing is that that river with varnish looks great I wonder how many coats, but the effect under the bridge something I strive for with the right amount of reflection. A great layout in my view thanks and please continue with the scripts.

Roger
Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: Alan Lautenslager on October 10, 2018, 03:54
I recently joined the 009 group here as I became very interested in British Narrow Gauge. I have been modeling narrow gauge in the US now for almost 50 years and frankly I am burned out on it!
I too am having difficulty in handling the very small parts for scales such as 009 and HOn30. After seeing what you have accomplished in such a small space in little time I might have to look at this scale. Here in the states On30 is popular and I believe it is close to what you are enjoying.

TOO many decisions!!!!

Alan
Title: Re: My new layout Knottworthy Magna in 0-16.5
Post by: gtmspyder on October 10, 2018, 20:03
Hello Roger and Alan, thank you for the nice comments.

Roger, the river is painted onto the baseboard using Acrylic paint, and the first coat of clear varnish brushed on.

I then highlighted the cascade edges with white Acrylic to try and simulate the broken water, and put odd splashes of green here and there.

Then, making sure the river bed was absolutely flat, I poured the varnish straight from the tin, down the back cascades and onto the river bed, and let it settle more or less of it's own accord, just helping it move slightly with a brush to flow into any nooks and crannies if a meniscus formed to stop it reaching the bank sides, the end of the river I kept an eye on until I was sure the varnish was not going to flow over.

I left this to dry for a day or two, and then poured on another layer, etc., I think in total it has one painted coat to seal the baseboard and the base colour, and three additional pourings to reach the state it now appears to you, and if it starts to look dull, I will just give it another pour.

Alan, I think you are right that the Americans use On30 as their 7mm narrow gauge, it certainly is easier on the dithering hands and eyeballs, but of course, the 009 society would rather I did not take up the forum with my overlarge ramblings, so despite my membership and meeting visits to the Yorkshire area group meetings, I no longer post on here on a regular basis.
I still have all my 009 loco's and rolling stock, and I am thinking of dabbling once again in 009 with one of Carl Arendt's little layouts as I enjoy the building more than the operating
of Railway modelling, we will have to see?

Kind regards to you both,

BrianT.