I was going to expand on this a bit and then send it into the News, but in the end I think I will just post it on here as it is:
History of the 009 Society Logo.
The Decauville 0-4-0 silhouette has been associated with the 009 Society for many years, but it was not the first logo used by the society.
When Mike Higgins first set up the 009 Society in 1973 he created a small
Interesting. So, how did the logo evolve into the one on current issues of the OO9 News?
Jeff S.
As I said I was going to expand on the above to bring it up to date, but just lost interest!
Obviously the reason for typing the article in the first place was that the Decauville 0-4-0 silhouette on 009 News was 40 years old in September.
As it happens the Jouef model was 50 years old earlier this year as well. I have written an article all about the Jouef H0e range, but I have not got round to taking the last few photos. (Of the two pre-formed layouts.) So I have not sent it in to the news.
Brian Meldon
Love all the logos; much less so the futuristic font!
Quote from: cornelius on October 18, 2016, 10:52
When Tom and I took on the 009 News in 2013, I redrew the Decauville logo in a modern vector format. This is the current version that appears in the News and other publicity material, and was the basis for the 40th Anniversary convention logo.
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5633/30317410871_87d33ceca0.jpg)
What is the extra little bit added on the handrail for?
Or is that an error??
It is perhaps worth mentioning that the previous logo was not the same as that used by Jouef in their 1970's publicity as the Jouef version had a lower mounting bracket for the handrail.
Brian Meldon
That lump is not new... I have one of the 009 Society mugs (it must be 20+ years old?) and it has the same lump on the handrail....
PS - time for a re-run of the mugs? (they're bone china - no rubbish!)
009 Society mugs...
Aren't they the ones (like me) who were too slow to take a step back when volunteers are needed to work on the Committee?
;D
Yep! ;)
Quote from: hughn on October 20, 2016, 09:10
That lump is not new... I have one of the 009 Society mugs (it must be 20+ years old?) and it has the same lump on the handrail....
PS - time for a re-run of the mugs? (they're bone china - no rubbish!)
Sorry Hugh, they were not "official" 009 Society mugs --- and they are not 20 years old --- much more like 12 -15 years old , the mugs were a very short production run commissioned by a past member of the Tyne-Tees Group . It appears that the company who made them is no longer trading.
Garry
Split the difference, well almost. Some of mine are dated, 1998.
Bill Luty
The mugs do not answer the question as to what the lump on the handrail is supposed to be or why it was added.
I can see why the cab side profile was lowered compared to the original logo as that is more like the prototype and indeed more like the Jouef model, i.e. the boiler is higher than the tanks, but the lump on the handrail remains a little mystery.
I can see that I may have to go and look on the back issues to see when the lump first appeared!
Brian Meldon
Hmmmmmmm interesting!#
Here's one without lump - does this make it a rare collectors item?
However, frippery apart, I have some of the shiny card printed Society badges that may or may not still be available, for attaching to layout pelmet boards and publicity presentations etc. I only have the small ones in front of me at the moment (2.9 x 3.6 inches) and the logo on these do NOT have the lump. As to the date, I have a scanned image which is the same as the badge, which was sent to me and the datestamp of this in properties is September 2002. This DOES have a lump, but close inspection of the image heavily zoomed in reveals that there are a number of blemishes from what would have been a low resolution scan which show themselves as pixellations, or "dots" in the same blue colur as the logo and one of these "dots" is exactly where the current logo has the "lump" - maybe at some time in the past, somebody got hold of one of these impure scan images and cleaned it up, but mistook the blemish next to the handrail as part of it and left it present so that when Steve re-drew the logo, it had the lump already showing as an integral part of that part of the logo, permanently welded into the handrail.
Possible? I think so,
Discuss!
Mick
I am beginning to lose the will to live !!
Hi all,
There is some importance to this as it is effectively the society 'trade mark'.
Whether that is official or not makes no difference.
That is why it is important to establish whichever of the logos is to be used.
Yes - a small difference like that odd little 'lump' on the handrail can make a big difference!
Thanks
Quote from: Stan Williams on October 20, 2016, 19:38
I am beginning to lose the will to live !!
Shame on you Stan, you're not taking this important lump seriously..........................
I take two lumps in my tea, can we have one with that please?! :)
I wish that I had not mentioned the lump now!
At the end of the day it has taken at least 14 years for anyone to notice it at all!
If it had just been removed I doubt that anyone would have noticed it had gone!
Brian Meldon
Quote from: B.Meldon on October 20, 2016, 15:54
The mugs do not answer the question as to what the lump on the handrail is supposed to be or why it was added.
I can see why the cab side profile was lowered compared to the original logo as that is more like the prototype and indeed more like the Jouef model, i.e. the boiler is higher than the tanks, but the lump on the handrail remains a little mystery.
I can see that I may have to go and look on the back issues to see when the lump first appeared!
Brian Meldon
My point was that the said lump was not a new feature....
Quote from: hughn on October 21, 2016, 14:24
Quote from: B.Meldon on October 20, 2016, 15:54
The mugs do not answer the question as to what the lump on the handrail is supposed to be or why it was added.
I can see why the cab side profile was lowered compared to the original logo as that is more like the prototype and indeed more like the Jouef model, i.e. the boiler is higher than the tanks, but the lump on the handrail remains a little mystery.
I can see that I may have to go and look on the back issues to see when the lump first appeared!
Brian Meldon
My point was that the said lump was not a new feature....
Quite so Hugh. I am sure it is not on my orange card layout badge that was sent out with 009 news in the 1990's......and I am still using!
As I said I will have to have a look now to see when itt first appeared on 009 news.
Brian,
I really do believe that the vast majority of members are more concerned in the direction the Society will take and what the future holds.
No harm in getting to the bottom of it. If some members want to follow it up then so good.
Compared to some others the Society does seem quite concerned about liability and corporate matters so misrepresentation of the company logo is possibly relevant.
Even if it is totally irrelevant, it's a bit of harmless fun.
My thoughts are that what if an actual model of a locomotive was used to represent the Society and the maker had put the whatsit where the thingamejig should have gone? What fun the debate would be then! :)
I just can not believe that I am doing this!
I totally agree that this subject has little relevance to 009 modelling or the society and that is why I never finished the original article
Thanks for the clarification Brian, we can all rest easy in our beds at night now!
Actually a good piece of research which is of historical interest and one for our esteemed Archivist to file away I think!
Mick