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My project (a first in 009) is of a proposed, but never built station just outside York.

The Sandhutton Light Railway ran on 18" gauge from Warthill (Stockton-On-Forest) to Bossal, but the proposed 1/2 mile extension to Scrayingham was never built, due to the cost of building a bridge over the River Derwent.  The Owner of the line, Sir Robert Walker, died in 1932, and the whole railway was scrapped soon after, with only the single passenger carriage surviving (currently at the Lincolnshire Coast Railway, Skegness).

Enter the modellers license!  When Sir Robert Walker died, the LNER bought the line (it did have an interchange yard at Warthill) and built the extension to Scrayingham, and took the opportunity to increase the track gauge to 2'3".  Shortly after World War II, the line fell out of use and succumbed to nature.  Much of the track be became overgrown, but was eventually re-discovered by an intrepid band of preservationists who are currently hard at work to re-open the line as a tourist attraction.  My layout currently represents Scrayingham, as it may have been built, with only a modest passenger shelter (the line was primarily for freight).  I am building it in a modular way so I can extend it as and when funds permit.

To begin with, the main station board lives as a shelf, it is after all made from a spare strip of ContiBoard, and is taken down for building/testing, and eventually operating.

Initial planning, using part built stock
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Track laying
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The run round loop is checked for capacity
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I'll keep this updated as and when I get chance, hopefully it'll be an a reasonable state by the end of July as it may be attending the Whitby and District Model Railway Show

J

Seems like a great start J, it's also good to know that somebody else's workbench looks like mine ;D!

Live long & prosper

Ken

It was a permanent way occupation of the coffee table, and met with some very rolled eyes!

Today I have installed the 'MerControl' for the points (see photo) and now it's time for the electrics panel, and something to hide it in!

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J

This morning, I have had the old soldering iron out, and the electrics are all done (see photos) and now full testing can begin.  All that's left (hopefully) before detailing can take place, is the installation of the uncoupling magnets.  I've also had a go at painting and ballasting the track on the fiddle yard board.

The clamp is just temporary to hold the electrics panel in place while I test
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Track on the fiddle yard board
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J

It's been nearly a month since I last posted on here, and in that time I've; painted all the track (nice and time consuming), made a start on the goods shed and barn buildings using card, made a start on the ballasting, edging the raised 'platform' area, and developing the goods shed area (see photos).  The shed has also started to receive it's outer shell of Slater's brick embossed plasticard. 

I came to the conclusion that as one of the principle traffics of the line was bricks from Claxton Brick Works, that a fair few would be available for the line's construction, hence the goods shed line being set in brick rather than concrete as first planned.  Obviously the bricks will be heavily weathered to look like a well used yard, no doubt with some vegetation 'growing' over parts.  I also intend to place a yard crane in the yard (surprisingly!) to aid loading/unloading of wagons.

The goods shed is tested for size while still 'naked'
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The card 'foundations' are laid in the yard
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The 'bricks' are then glued down
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A goods train is shunted into the shed for gauging trials
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Now more of the ballasting can continue, joy!

J

Quote from: jaymzhatstand on April 01, 2009, 09:36

Now more of the ballasting can continue, joy!

J

And then you get to paint the bricks - if you like ballasting you'll luuurrvve painting the brickwork  ;D

ĸen

Quote from: zarniwhoop on April 02, 2009, 22:07

Quote from: jaymzhatstand on April 01, 2009, 09:36

Now more of the ballasting can continue, joy!

J

And then you get to paint the bricks - if you like ballasting you'll luuurrvve painting the brickwork  ;D

ĸen

I was thinking that  ;) Looking good, i like the brick surround to the track.

Well the ballasting is done (with the exception of the area around the water tower, more on this shortly) And the track ion the fiddle yard is all down, and I've finally got the plan sorted for the legs/display frame.

I've made a start on the bricks too, giving them a wash of grey for the cement, but they'll need a few more and some dirtying, it's not something I've worked with before, so it's all new!

It's York show this weekend, so I'll be picking up a fair few bits that i need, a water tower (I've a few ideas, but will shop around for the best suited one), some 'ash' for the loco stabling area and something to surface the platform with (or I might just use ballast with paint mixed in).  I also need some fencing/hedges and benches.  And I might just pay a visit to Parkside Dundas for some stock if the funds allow!

Once the ballast is dry, I'll get some more pictures taken.  It's almost starting to look like a railway now!

J

The ballasting is now all done, and I spent most of yesterday cleaning out the track and soldering extra feeds/contact points onto the points to get them working again, and so far, they all do.  Unsurprisingly some of the ballast's glue has seeped into the point mechanisms and stiffened them up, so I'm trying to work them loose, the main problem being the station throat one (which is pretty major!)

In other news, the York show produced two body kits (Chivers Finelines) wich are now under construction.  Harlech Castle (Ffestiniog 0-6-0DM) and a Vale of Rheidol 2-6-2t.  A Wills water tower now sits at the end of the platform (built by my better half, thankyou sweetheart!) and there is now a defined area for the loco shed.  The shed area is being modelled in an 'under construction' state, with the concrete floor having been laid, and two of the shed walls in place, the ground has also been covered with 'ash'.

This week I intend to get the framework/legs built so the layout can stand freely, and level, instead of using the ancient trestles it's been on thus far

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All comments gratefully received as ever

J

That's looking great, i like the engine shed area.  It's already showing some atmosphere, looking forward to when you get onto the scenery!  ;)

Quote from: invercloy on April 25, 2009, 13:36
That's looking great, i like the engine shed area.  It's already showing some atmosphere, looking forward to when you get onto the scenery!  ;)

Thanks for that!

I've now made a start on the scenic break on the fiddle yard board, the foundations of the hill are there, all I need is a tunnel entrance, and I'm currently browsing around for some suitable inspiration.  Once the tunnel is in, the landscaping can begin.  The barn that covers the point levers is now covered in corrugated plasticard, and green.  I've also been laying the flock down for the grassed areas, and it's all starting to change from being just a shelf with some track on to a railway!

I've also been pottering with the stock, trying to get it all finished off (those roofless carriages need sorting!), and once the majority of it is near enough done, I'll post a stock profile on here.

The framework to support the layout is done, but the legs are yet to be attached, but at least I can work on the backscenes now too!

Looking towards the fiddle yard
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Vale Of Rheidol No 9 Prince of Wales simmers in front of the barn
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I'll get some more pictures taken soon

J

The frames are now done and standing freely on their own legs, and I've solved a couple of issues with the points (two had become slightly sticky thanks to the ballast glue!) I've made a start on the tunnel mouth and intend to get this well on the way this week, then I can start building the hill around it and getting the scenics down on the fiddle yard board. I've been laying scatter in the station area, and will soon be starting on the area around the yard crane.

The backscene boards are almost ready for painting too, but not all of the attaching holes have been drilled yet. The old curtain/dust sheet in the photos is just to hide the legs at the moment (I'm hoping to get a better one)

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I'm also pressing ahead with getting my stock built and painted, and when there is a reasonable amount done, I'll post a stock list

J

Just a quick update on progress (it's been a while!) 

I've replaced two of the point control wires with Peco point motors, mounted under the board, as some glue had got into the tubes and set, and they just weren't playing any more!  The hill is now done, and has some trees on it, but hopefully I'll be able to get some more onto it, it should be quite dense woodland after all.  The small scenic inserts to fit between the layout boards and the edge of the framework are coming along nicely, and the backscene will be off to the painters pretty soon (thanks Bexx!)

It should all be ready for the exhibition in July (25th and 26th in Goathland Parish Hall, see diary for more info) hopefully some of you'll come along and say 'hi'!

And now for some pictures
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If anyone needs more details of the exhibition, don't hesitate to ask, I'll do my best to answer, or get the gen from the boss!

J

Quote from: jaymzhatstand on June 28, 2009, 07:28
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I've replaced two of the point control wires with Peco point motors, mounted under the board, as some glue had got into the tubes and set, and they just weren't playing any more! 
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Just in case you have not given up on the wire in tube method for future layouts, it may be worth next time using a bit of silicone grease.  Stick some on the end of the wire as you thread it through the tube, and once it is in place smear a bit on either end to keep out any unwanted PVA/Water mix (and stops the steel wires rusting!).

Well, it's nearly exhibition time, and the layout is almost ready to go!  Just a couple of finishing touches to sort out, and whatever diabolical problems present themselves in transit of course!

Just a couple of pictures to further advertise Scrayingham's presence at this weekend's exhibition (Whitby & District MRC show, held in Goathland Parish Hall, North Yorkshire, Saturday 25th & Sunday 26th July)

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Hope to see some of you there, please come and say hello if you can make it!

J

Well Scrayingham's first outing has passed, and on the whole, I'd say it was a thoroughly enjoyable experience and would like to extend my thanks the the Whitby & District MRC for inviting me.  I'd also like to thank all those who came to the show, and those whom I met, even if it was only briefly.

The first hour or so was a little stressful, as most of my stock decided it didn't want to play, one of my locos failed, and things just seemed to be going totally pear shaped, so apologies if any of you were there at that point and I appeared a little distracted!  After a deep breath, and a bit of re-marshalling, a workable operating sequence appeared, and once that was sorted, I could try to get the problem items sorted.

I have come to the conclusion that the GEM point levers need some sort of padding, as continual use of the brass levers gets rather painful!

Here are some pictures of the layout at the show, if anyone else has any, I'd like to see them, I did notice a couple of cameras about!

Once again thanks to the W&DMRC and all those who came along, hopefully I'll be able to take it out on the road again one day.

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J

Great little layout, well done! 

Would you be able to post some details on how you modelled the interior of your FR 111 Obs?

I'll create a thread in the rolling stock section for it once I've taken some pictures of it

Cheers for the compliments too!

J

This layout has really come together well.

If I may just make a couple of suggestions, firstly you might want to tone things down a little with a bit of overall weathering, if you have access to an air brush that would be an advantage. Everything looks a bit too clean and new so try giving everything a light dusting of a paint, use a very light mist and build tones up using several layers, you can also add shadows with this technique.

Secondly, you might want to sort that rail joint in the image second up from bottom, the joint in front of the FR coach, where the rail meets the tail end of the frog, looks like there might be a fishplate missing. this will probably give you no end of grief if not rectified.

Please don't think of these comments as criticism, they are merely intended as suggestions.

Regards,
Darren.

Thanks,  I do intend to tone it down a bit, I just hadn't had time before the show, there's many other small details to fit too, name boards, dummy point levers, general clutter and such.

The gap in the track is one of the section breaks, so it's completely intentional, bet well done to your eagle-eyes!

J

even so it looks quite a height change - maybe it's just the photo, but did you use isolating joiners?

Well, it's been rather a while since there was any news on here, but it seems that my trip to the NEC has stirred some inspiration somewhere, and I started having a bit of a play with some stock, N Settrack and some old Hornby gradient piers to see what I could get away with.  It seems I can get a 9 inch radius semicircle from flat to high enough to clear itself workable by my locos, which is rather good for the plan I'm toying with.

Here a couple of photos of my trials

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Now to do a bit more paper planning before I start getting too carried away!  Once I've got some solid plans, I'll let you all know what's on the cards, I just thought I'd let you all know I haven't given up!

Feel free to speculate as to what is going on!

J

Looks like your testing and planning is going in a similar direction to mine.

I am preparing to set up a test to determine what is the steepest spiral my stock will take, although I was planning on trying to gain height clearance over a full circle but then see how sharp I could make the circle without the loco slipping or anything derailing. Having seen what you are doing maybe I will need a second test to see how quickly I can get height clearance on a larger radius (only a confirmed narrow gauger could refer to 9" on 9mm track as a larger radius!)

Would be interested in amy feedback as to what trains you can run up your test track - although I do accept that the only valid test is one that uses the actuall stock you will yourself be running, so I will still need to do my own testing before planning a layout.

Playing about with bits of track and stock can be a remarkably entertaining way of passing a few hours!  I highly recommend it!

I managed to get all of my locos up my test curve, with the three WWI tub waggons seen in the photos, I also managed it with a Parkside bogie waggon, and a Ffestiniog open bogie coach (although not all together).  I won't be running a lot up, or down the hill as it's going to be a spur off the main line, so large amounts of stock won't be using it which will hopefully make it easier on the locos.

Thanks for looking

J

Finally, I've done a bit!

To be fair I have been moving house recently, so apparently, modelling has to take a back seat!  I have been building stock, and doing little sundry bits, but nothing really worth reporting for a while, until today!

I've finally started to replace the point in the run-round loop which feeds the second shed road/coal siding which got damaged when fitting the point motor ages ago!  It managed to get through the exhibition last year (by not using it!), but I've finally got around to ordering a new one.

So this morning, in the hope that the posty would bring me a present, I began a P-way occupation of the passing loop.  Fishplates were cut, and the track lifted (without too much damage) and the ballast cleared in preparation for the new one to arrive.  With the loop out of commission, passenger services have had to be reduced to the push-pull set only (as can be seen in the bottom photo).

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So that's the progress so far, the flapping letterbox while I was track lifting (and sop excitedly ran downstairs to meet) produced only a bill, though fortunately not for me!  So track laying will have to wait.  Followed by re-ballasting, then testing of course!

I'll keep you updated!

J

Welcome back J, looking forward to more progress reports when the new turnout has arrived!

Did you ever take photos of the stock building you reported?

Mick

I'm intending to take photos of the stock as it reaches a stage of completion, then post them, however, I keep getting bits to a semi finished stage, and then working on something else!  I'll have to get my finger out I suppose!  I'm in the process of painting some figures to fit in my carriages, so that is slowing the carriage building, as the roofs aren't getting fitted!

I'll endeavour to do a bit of photography tomorrow and post it in the 'Rolling Stock' section of the site.

Cheers

J

Last night at work, while my mind was wandering (as it often does) and I decided to have a bit more of a planning and experimenting session.  Further to the gradient tests I counducted, oh months ago, I decided to see what I can fit onto the board sizes I intend to use.  The photo (which has been cleaned up in Paint Shop Pro) might be a little confusing, so I shall explain...

The station feeds onto the bottom of the photo, and the main line progresses over the set of points and continues in the long arc (15inch radius) until it straightens out and crosses the river (represshented by the dased lines) on an as yet undesigned bridge, possibly a girder one.  The line that branches off the main line, begins to descend (at the marked gradient post) and curves round on a 9 inch radius curve until it passes under the main line and ont a warf next to the river.  The set of points at the bottom of the gradient will have a small cassette so a train can use it as a headshunt before running onto the viewing side of the layou again.

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Hopefully that has explained what can be seen above, how long it'll be befor I start building it, I don't know, but now I know it'll fit, I can start actually planning the boards!

If anyone has any advice, questions, or anything else they'd like to pass on, I'd be most interested and grateful to hear (or rather read) your thoughts

Thanks

J

Well, I've been meaning to alter the fiddle yard arrangement on Scrayingham for over a year, and I've finally got around to starting!  Not sure if I've mentioned it in the past, but I'm going for a traverser as opposed to a fan of sidings, this way I don't have to worry about overhangs or long stock not agreeing with reverse curves (i.e. the Sandhutton coach!)

I have cut the wood and assembled the frame, but not fitted the top surfaces or drawer runners as yet.  I'm waiting for the pattern makers dowels to arrive before I make the connecting end of the board inaccessible for drilling!  Below are a couple of photos of the current state of affairs.  The track and scenery is still on  the original fiddle yard board, and this is soon to be lifted and changed to a scenic section so there is a bit more of a run between fiddle yard and station.

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The observant amongst you may also notice that the platform shelter is not present in the photos, and a Will's Crossing Keepers Cottage has appeared.  The cottage is going to become the ticket office/refreshment room, and the shelter will be moved up the platform (I just forgot to bring it downstairs for the photos!).  I also intend to pave the platform as I've never been fully satisfied with the gravelled look I have at present.

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While watching something no doubt thrilling on telly the other week, I also made a start on a ground frame to represent the control mechanism for the run-round loop points, this is now in need of painting and levers fitting.  Also I've built a Parkside DM48 Festiniog 2 Balcony Brake Van, which will be finished as Van 7 as seen here http://www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/Van_7 and will eventually joined by the single balcony version and an open bogie waggon to make the 'Greasers Express' as seen on the link above.  I'm quite pleased with my rendition of the green used on the FR, being a mix of Railmatch 314 Southern Stock Green with a dash of 61 LMS Freight Grey.

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So that's where Scrayingham is at present, hopefully there'll be a bit more progress over the coming weeks than there has been recently, but I keep getting sidetracked with other projects, must stay focussed!

As ever, any comments/suggestions/questions are welcomed!

Cheers

J

Good to see you back on the postings J and congrats on the progress!

If you can accept a bit of constructive criticism, that is a mean looking gap in the rail ahead of the point frog in the photo showing your new ground frame - needs a touch of realignment and "tuning" before you open for traffic I think!

Looking forward to seeing more reports from you now that you have recommenced the project.

Mick

Cheers Mick, and well done with the eagle eyes!  I have been fitting insulated rail joiners to the gaps, and the one I haven't done yet, is guess which!

I've just finished fitting the grab handles to Van 7, so that is now awaiting final detail painting.

Cheers

J

I have finally got around to sorting out my new fiddle yard.  In fairness I have been distracted by my other layout, but have now at last made some progress!

As stated previously the old fiddle yard served a purpose, but was not brilliantly reliable, the insulfrog small radius points being a particular problem so a new system was devised.  I had considered a casette storage sysetm, but decided that they could be problematic to store and I had viisions of me tipping one up and stock rolling out of the end, as I'd no doubt forget to fit a stopper at the 'dead' end!  So a traverser was the order of the day giving me an extra storage road than my original fiddle yard and no points to contend with!

As you will see from the photos, track alignment and current provision are dealt with using brass rod and tube sections, ensuring perfect alignment on every road.  The tops of the tube sections had to be filed down slightly in order to not be higher than the rail head, but all has been checked and various items of stock will pass over without problems (so far!).  Next on the agenda is the new control panel for the station which will hopefully make it a lot more user friendly and also incorprates section switches to place less emphasis on the point blades carrying current.

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Cheers

J

That's a neat looking fiddle yard. I like the engineering of the track ends with PCB strips. Is that a drawer slider rail underneath?

Thanks for that, it's not as neat as the photos seem to show though, but it works so I'm happy with it!

They are indeed drawer runners, fitted with ball bearings so hopefully they'll stay pretty smooth and reliable for a long time!  I think they came form my local hardware store and weren't too pricey either, so thats always a bonus!  They don't feel cheap and tacky though, so I don't think therte'll be any issues of cheap-and-flimsy ness!

Cheers

J

Nice work, J.

The fiddle yard does look nicely built; the combination of positive locking and good electrical feed is well worth the effort.  With a bit of time you can also incorporate other contacts to the rods to feed current to signalling equipment!

I was wondering what had developed on your layout.

The fiddle yard solution looks good, very neat.

Have you made any progress on the scenic section?

Quote from: jaymzhatstand on February 07, 2012, 19:21
Thanks for that, it's not as neat as the photos seem to show though, but it works so I'm happy with it!

They are indeed drawer runners, fitted with ball bearings so hopefully they'll stay pretty smooth and reliable for a long time!  I think they came form my local hardware store and weren't too pricey either, so thats always a bonus!  They don't feel cheap and tacky though, so I don't think therte'll be any issues of cheap-and-flimsy ness!

Cheers

J

As long as they have ball bearings they should be all right. Good idea. I must keep it in mind.

Thanks for the positive reactions, I'm pretty pleased with it myself, and am hoping that it will spur me on to actually make some progress and spend some time operating the layout now that it is a bit more user friendly (in theory!)

Tigger - Much as I like the idea of a fully signalled and interlocked traverser, I doubt my electronics knowledge, which is, at best minimalist will stretch that far!  Especially as the whole layout is controlled by a single DC unit.  If I ever extend it and incorporate an independently controlled fiddle yard however...no, brain, stop now!  I'll never sleep if I get an idea like that in there, plus I don't think I could fit any more layouts into the spare room and the domestic authorities won't like them spreading everywhere else!  I currently have about six part built models and a rake of slate waggons on the TV stand in the lounge awaiting attention!

Invercloy - I haven't done any more scenic work since my last update, once I've got the station section re-wired, I can make a proper start.  There's also the scenic link board to ballast and such, but once I can fron things from one end to the other, that will hopefully encourage me to get on!  Running through scenery is a lot more satisfying than a bare board!

Cheers

J

Just a quick update to say that the first train has run from the fiddle yard to the corner board without incident!

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I have also tried different bits of stock, being both pulled and propelled, and so far there hasnt been a single problem.  No doubt one the track is ballasted and painted something will develop some sort of objection to it though!

Cheers

J

Yesterday I joined the station board up to the rest of the layout and had a bit of a running session.  I have decided I need to be able to isolate the fiddle yard so will be adding some electrics for that, and theres a bit of a sag where the fiddle yard and curve boards meet which is a bit of a bind with some couplings coming undone over it.  This should be pretty easy to solve (famous last words!)

Anyhow, here's a photo of the layout looking from the headshunt of the station 'up' the line.

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I have also made a video of it in action (http://youtu.be/snMzSQzm8ZA), Harlech Castle (still undergoing 'winter' maintainance arrives with a works train, runs round then LNER N16 No14 leaves the shed area while the freight is shunted into the goods shed.  No. 14 then leaves to collect a train from the carriage sidings (which are elsewhere!)

So now I should be able to make a start on some scenic work.  First job is to paint the rails of the newer track, and hide the new wiring in the same manner.

Cheers

J

Had a look at your video and photos. Well done, no derailments, the electrics seem OK and most of it has even been ballasted! It's looking quite good and all seems to work well, apart from one or two pickup problems on the points. That's normal and they can be ironed out as you go along.

Do you use Greenwich couplings? I'm still stuck with the N gauge couplings I standardised 40 years ago. No chance of exchanging them on 150 items of rolling stock, it would take me a year.

Can I offer one bit of advice? I would replace the AC power on the point motors with DC and a capacitor discharge unit. That would make them less noisy.

Anyway, the layout is coming along nicely. Keep up the good work!

Cheers, fortunately I didn't have to undo too much of the previous ballasting to update the wiring, so the only challenge I have is to colour match it (although in reality newer ballast is often a different colour)  One of the stalling sections, just by the water tower will be easily solved with a bit of wire soldered across the live joint, in about ten minutes time!  The fishplate is a bit unreliable (it's probably got some paint in somewhere!)

My couplings are mainly Paul Windle ones, with loops on the 'down' end of the stock and just the 'buffer' on the other end, although for neatness I've used some smaller plastic 'buffers' on some stock too, which as long as they are at the right height, they work just fine.

I had already come to the conclusion that a CDU will need fitting, and there is plent of space under the board to add that when funds allow.

Cheers

J

Looking very good indeed.  Have had a few derailments on the L&TR recently - some caused by the new stock settling in but most caused by an increasingly senile owner who can't seem to use his coupling hook without ending up with a string of wagons coming up with it!  Wasn't a good couple of operating sessions!

Since finding out that I've got an exhibition in just under a month (Whitby & District MRC at Goathland Parish Hall 21st & 22nd July), I thought I'd best get cracking, the main thing to get done on the layout itself is scenery (although I can guarantee something electrical will fail once it's all done!)  Fortunately I've had the ballast done for a while, so that's one less job to do, although it does need a bit of weathering.

I've made the main formers for the scenery on the extension board, and once I have a tunnel mouth fitted I can start landscaping!

In the accompanying photos you'll see my Chris Veitch FR 104/106 being used for gauging and clearance tests as it's my longes passenger vehicle and will hopefully be in service by the exhibition.

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This shot shows roughly where the tunnel entrance will be, with the carriage half in and half out-ish!

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As can be seen there are a few more formers/supports to fit to the viewing side (right hand side in the picture) before the 'ground' can be laid.

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I aslo intend to have a retaining wall to stop landslips where the trackbed has been cut through the hill along the inside of the curve, not unlike those which can be seen on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway between Grosmont and Goathland.

I'll try to update this fairly regularly now as I should be making a bit more progress with the exhibition approaching fairly quickly!

Hopefully I'll see some of you there!

Cheers

J

Bit of an "against the clock" challenge coming up J, but it is looking good so far!

Good luck and best wishes for a "following wind" as you get stuck into the scenic creativity!

Mick

As I already remarked on the other forum, corrugated card is an excellent scenic base which I have used several times.

I'm afraid I won't be able to follow your scenic work during July as I will be away on holiday, but having seen the other part of your layout it should be good. Nothing like a bit of pressure to complete a layout...

A really interesting and inspiring series, much appreciated. It is what this forum should be all about
That pic of the Lilliput loco in LNER livery really looks believable and the other stock is great as well
Look forward to seeing the layout

Thanks very much for the encouraging comments, and tedp, enjoy your holiday!

Petersmith, there's an article under the 'Locomotives' section of this forum about the conversion of the Liliput loco, it also appeared in the 009 News.

Cheers

J

I've made a start on the landscaping on both the extension and station boards, using a combinaiton of newsparer glued to the formers and then paper mache over the top which seems to be creating a fairly strong shell (but I will put down a fair few layers to be on the safe side!).  The larger sections will have support underneath them from rolled up newspaper packing.

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In order to form the cutting against the higher side of the hill I have made a retaining wall using thick card, with slaters embossed plastic sheet mounted on it.  I have done the same for the tunnel mouth, which has had a layer of filler spread and scribed around the opening to represent the voussoirs and keystone, which hopefully, when painted will not be noticable as Squadron Green Stuff!

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The staiton board is starting to gain a bit of undulating land as well, raised behing the staion (on the viewing side, then falling towards the end of the board.  Hopefully this will add a bit more visual interest, and once populated with a couple of small trees make it seem less like looking at a baseboard with some track and buildings stuck on!

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All comments as ever are welcome!

Cheers

J

I've finally got all of the paper mache for the ground done, it took a while duie to the contours and having to wait until the retaining wall and tunnel mouth were painted/fitted, but it's now ready for painting (first a few coats of brown to add a bit more solidity and a decent earth colour).  Onmce it's painted, I'll make a start with the detailing; grasses, fences, trees and other bits and bobs.  At least with an earth colour layed down it'll give it a bit more of a reasonable appearance.  Less than two weeks to go before the show now, so hopefully it'll look pretty reasonable!

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A few shots showing the retaining wall and tunnel mouth after painting and fitting.  The eagle eyed of you may nitice some scatter has been applied between the ballast and the wall, this will eventually be weathered and have a few 'weeds' added.

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The next job will be to fit the backscene, which is the Gaugemaster 'Open Field' three part set, I know it's generic but I don't really have time to create my own and it'll be mostly just the sky that is visible, especially on the valley section.

I'll post some more photos once the ground is less newspapery!

Cheers

J

This morning I've had a play with the backscene for the station board, cutting out the hole for the control panel (inside the green barn) and drilling the hole to correspond with the bolt for the legs.  After a sucessful test fitting I thought 'I wonder what it'll look like when it's done?' so out can the roll of Gaugemaster Backscene and a couple of small bits of Blu-Tack and hey presto (other supermarkets are available!  ;) ) the resulting photos are a rough approxiomation of the finished product. 

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There will be some foliage along the join between the flat and the vertical, hopefully some sea-moss trees or lichen, which will hopefully improve the appearance somewhat, but overall, I'm fairly pleased with it so far.

Lastly a shot of my Mercian FR van posing outside the goods shed, which I think shows a lot of potential.

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Can anyone suggest any way that I can fasten the backscene onto the board itself, I don't think PVA will be suitable, so am I looking at wallpaper paste or something similar?

Cheers

J

Quote from: jaymzhatstand on July 12, 2012, 09:47
Can anyone suggest any way that I can fasten the backscene onto the board itself, I don't think PVA will be suitable, so am I looking at wallpaper paste or something similar?
Cheers
J

Looking good Jaymz! I don't know what the Gaugemaster backscene is made of, but if a photographic or similar paper, I suggest that something like Pritt Stick will do it if you go right round the 4 margins and diagonals across the middle. This would vastly reduce the risk of wrinkles and bubbles which you may get if you slap wallpaper paste or similar all over the back. Not sure if you mentioned what the backscenes are to be fixed to - MDF/Ply/Hardboards etc as this could affect the type of adhesive you end up using.

I must say that judging from your photos, they look perfectly OK with just the blu-tack holding them up!

Mick

Try "Spraymount" for fixing the back scene -

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Thanks for that, the actual board is plywood and the backscene seems to be a pretty sturdy paper.  I'm not sure if Prit-Stick would be strong enough to hold it, and after using spray mount on my OO layout's backscene and having it bubble after a few months, I'm not too keen on that idea!

I'll have a bit more of a browse about and see what an interweb search suggests too, that'll give me something to do on my breaks at work!

Cheers

J

I've used sparaymount and had the same experience, with bubbles appearing after the event.

John W

After a bit of looking about on a couple of other forums and the internetweb, I've come to the conclusion that wallpaper paste is the way forward, hopefully that will help circumnavigate the bubbles that occured on my OO layout (see photo below)

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Cheers

J

The backscene image on Angst (which is 120gsm paper - the backscene not the layout)) is held on with small sqaures of double-sided adhesive tape. It's not perfect but I have managed to un-stick parts and re-stick them where I noticed a sagging taking place. (The whole backscene itself is removeable)

Yesterday (Sunday) I took the layout downstairs and set it up in the lounge so I could spend the afternoon testing various combinations of rolling stock and try to highlight as many potential problems as I could as I dont want to discover that nothing works next weekend!  There are a few minor bugs to work around, but on the whole I had trains which were fine and could have stock swapped around so it doesn't get too repetitive!  The curtain to hide the legs has also been made, and the eyes for the press studs sewn on (thanks to the sewing machine, fingers and sewing skills of my wife!)

Today I have been concentrating on the scenics, mainly adding the wire to the Ratio fencing (which is quite a task, but looks good and so worth it!).  Som scatter and hedges have been added, along with a few clumpos of hedgerow and the first couple of trees (all from the Woodland Scenics range) and the followinf photos show that particular progress.  The unfinished fence wires are visible in a couple of the photos, but these won't be left dangling will-nilly!

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I have also pasted the first of the backscenes to it's board, and it seems to be drying quite well.  There were a few bubbles earlier, but these seem to be slowly going as the wallpare paste dries.

I'd best crack on, I've only got a couple of days until the exhibition now, and Friday will be taken up with loading the car and transporting it to Goathland for setting up, so time is of the essence!

Cheers

J

It's looking good... Best wishes for your outing at Goathland (I nearly typed Gothland, which being so near Whitby mayn't be so far out...)  ;D

Thanks, I have family in Whitby so know all about the Goth weekends, there are some ipressive, and some horrific sights (not much different to many exhibitions!)

A bit more scatter has gone down this morning, and I hope to have the first layer of full ground cover down by this evening

Cheers

J

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The exhibition over the weekend went pretty well, a few cases of dirty wheels and stroppy stock, but these were easy to solve as I went along (stock that didn't want to play didn't and wqent back in the box!)  As the weekend progressed I found myself slipping into an operating sequence, which had just enough movbement to keep it interesting for me, and nothing to stressful that I could be wholly distracted if anyone wanted to chat (I hope!)

I think I could do with at least one more loco, as the five I had were pretty much coinfined to their duties, and the ability to swap them and have on in the shed area would add to bot the viewing and operating interest.  This will hopefully be solved one day as I've got a Backwoods Double Fairlie on my workbench as well as the start of a railcar which will also increase my operating capacity, and over-fill my fiddle yard!  I also found that despite my efforts, not all of my couplings are at the same height, and so not all shunting moves worked, so this is something else to address.

Scenically I recieved a fair few favourable comments (mostly about the backscene, which even led to Puffers of Pickering selling one of them, no commission for me though!)  People didn't believe that it was pure chance that the scatter I had used matched up well with the colours on the backscene, but I had done most of it before fitting the back boards so it was nothing but luck (I'm rather grateful for it too!)

I took a few photos of the layout in action at various stages of the operating sequence so you can get an idea of how it ran.

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One of my FR brake vans even found its way onto the Whitby MRCs layout 'Streonshalh' on Sunday afternoon and was seen at various parts of the layout on a Lowmac, and on the back of a lorry!

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Hopefully I'll get to take it out and about again as it is rather enjoyable to operate, and it'll encourage me to keep working on it too!

Cheers

J

Wow!  It's been over two years since I posted on here, so I guess it's time for an update!  With an exhibition in September, I decided a month or so ago to put the layout together and see how the scenics had held up to a house move and a long time stored in my secret room!  The grassed areas had begun to look a little worn out and the hedges have always been a bone of contention for me.  I have begin the process of tidying and tweaking various scenic aspects thus far; the grassed areas have had a second coat of scatter and now look a lot more healthy, the station has a new fence along the back, a couple of trees have been started (I'm just waitng for the foliage to arrive before they get a bit of green life on them) I have also begun filling out the hedge along the back which I think is a vast improvement on the flexible foam one currently in place!



Below are some photos of the various changes, taken using the same angles and stock in the previous post for comparison.

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And finally a few photos of the various plantlife appearing around the layout!

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Still a fair way to go, and Ive got a few stock projects on the go as well, but just under two months to go, everything should be fine!  As long as I don't keep getting distracted be 'testing'!

All comments and questions/suggestions are welcome!

Cheers

J

Good to see you back Jaymz and that the modelling is still progressing! Hope you are now able to post regular reports!

Mick

Only just caught up with this but liking it already... keep us informed with progress!

David.

Thanks very much, I'lldo my best to keep it update. Once my trees are looking a bit more alive I'll certainly post again! Hopefully there'll be a steady flow as the show gets ever closer!

Cheers

J

I've finally got the new layer of scatter down over the whole scenic are, there was a bit of a delay as my supplies were running low and I had to find a matching colour and as I long ago got rid of the original packet, that wasn't as easy as it could (should) have been!

Never the less, it now looks a lot tidier, and should be added to a little more with a few clumps of static grass and small clumps of wild flowers here and there.  The trees to the back of the hill have been dressed with scatter, fixed with hairspray and one has been airbrushed to become a copper beech, although In photographs it looks a solid purple, in reality it is a dark purply-reddy-greeny colour which is as close as I could mix to the real thing.  The other two 'main' trees have had their trunks painted so the white blobs of dried superglue are now hidden, so they are ready for their foliage now too.

Here are a couple of photos to illustrate the new expanded wood area and foreground tree sitting in place.

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Still just over a month to go until the exhibition (Sept 20th & 21st - New Earswick, York - www.railscenetoday.com) so I've still got plenty of time for tweaks and enhancements, no need to panic, yet!

Cheers

J

Today I dug out the fidle yard to make an adjustment I'd meant to make before it's last outing, but not had the time to do.  I also found that a couple of the bits of brass pipe used for the locking/current transfer had come unsoldered so that was an extra little job to sort out, but better now than the day before the show!


Here is the transition between the fiddle yard entrance and the sector plate as I found it


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And the necessary bits, which fortunately hadn't gone missing


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And after a few minutes poking about with my soldering iron and some fresh flux/solder


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Now, on to the orginal task I had set myself.  The non-layout end of the sector plate was open, which as you can visualise was just asking for trouble!  The previous show I exhibited at (Goathland, courtesy Whitby MRC) I only had one cascading disaster, but a few near misses.  My intention was to fit a small barrier to prevent any runaway stock leaving the relative safety of the layout and being rapidly introduced to the floor!


Before, it does look like there is a barrier, but that is the framework for the fiddleyard.


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After, the new barrier has been fitted and can be seen with some of my VoR stock acting as a test train.


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Hopefully this will prevent any further accidents or near misses!


Cheers


J

This time in a month, the Scrayingham will have (hopefully) completed a day's exhibition running and will be not far away from the second day commencing!  One little niggle that has been at the back of my mind is a slight variance in the track height between the two main baseboards.  It isn't enough to affect running badly, but the smaller wheelbased locos do tend to judder a bit at times, especially as the day wears on and the track gets dirty.  I have made a short video to show the issue and it is to be found below...

http://youtu.be/1GUfA-qMabI?list=UUOpCq0DaAFf-tl_GpDGX-Ww  (sorry, I don't know how to embed videos!)

The difference in height is only on the rail nearest to the camera, and despit the appearance in the video, the boards are closely joined (the bare wood is from a small gap in the scenics which will soon be rectified!)

My initial idea is to separate the boards and add a small shim of plasicard below the trackbed on the affected side to raise it in line with the other as I don't really fancy lifting the whole section this close to a show and having to re-ballast etc!

Has anyone else had similar problems and found solutions to them?  I may opt for a brass shim as that would probably be sturdier and less prone to compression than plasticard.

Any help/advice greatly recieved

Cheers

J

Since the change in level is only on one rail, I think your proposal sounds good, and is the only real way to do it. I have an inter-board section where two tracks (4 rails) cross, and it was necessary to make similar adjustments to get all four rails to align. Whether you use brass, plastic card or thin cardboard is up to you. I do not think that "softer" materials will necessarily be compressed. You may be able to get some adjustment by inserting track pins either side of the track, and pushing one side down harder than the other, if you use cardboard (visiting cards are a good source of thin card.)

I note that you have used copper clad sleepers at the interface between the layout and fiddle yard, but it is not clear whether you have done the same at the layout joints? If you have, it may be possible to lift one rail by de-soldering, and then adding your sliver of brass beneath the rail?

Thanks to Mozzer over on NGRM, for pointing out the obvious about heating the solder on the copperclad sleepers and lifting the rail slightly, I gave it a go and it seems to have worked pretty well. It may still have a little jolt, but I think the majority of that is just the track joint now.


Again, I have made a short video to highlight the work done and the results


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix9bDvT2K6A


Next on the agenda is to experiment with static grass, the applicator is ready to go and I've got some short grass to test it with. I'll need to get hold of some longer stuff for the area around the barn at the back, and some items to clutter it with possibly a rusty skip and some bits of waste farm equipment, a tree trunk or other such detrius.


Time to see what I can find in my 'never throw anything away box(es)'!


Cheers


J

If you were to stick a strip of foam onto the barrier of your fiddle yard at just above coupling height (and thicker than coupling length) would save any inadvertant damage to your stock from 'runaways'. A 'not so dumb buffer' I think they call it. :-)

Quote from: jaymzhatstand on August 26, 2014, 11:35
Thanks to Mozzer over on NGRM, for pointing out the obvious about heating the solder on the copperclad sleepers and lifting the rail slightly, I gave it a go and it seems to have worked pretty well. It may still have a little jolt, but I think the majority of that is just the track joint now.


Cheers


J

Glad it helped

I have begun the process of 'planting' static grass, beginning at the station end of the layout.  I have to say the visual improvement is very noticable and indeed pleasing, as it does give a great deal of extra body to the area so treated.  I will mix in a darker colour as I progress further back or the whole thing might start to look a bit toy like.  After the initaial application to the area near the water tower, I found the bigger clump of undergrowth looked a little like a bad toupee so using a bit of brushwood I have created a tree stump in the middle, which seems to give the area a much better appearance.


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I have begun to make the station signs, one for behind the fence, the other for the small grassed area in the middel of the run round loop.  In the photo the signs with test print signs in place.  The actual ones to be used are on the sheet below, waiting to be printed out and stuck on, but that will have to wait until a second coat of 'NER Red/Brown' has been apllied.  The Red/Brown has also bee painted onto the relevant areas of the station building, just the cream for the window frames remains to be done now.


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The rear hedge is now up to half the length that it needs to be, so should be completed fairly soon and the back area's appearance should improve greatly.  The production of the bushes became much quicker when I realised that I'd been trying to use varnish as a fixative as opposed to spray mount!


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Less than a month to go until the signal drops on the exhibition, so I'd best keep going!


Cheers


J

Looking good, J - especially that grass. Are you using a posh applicator or a home-made one? - mixed fibres or is it one colour? (though it looks mixed, which gives less of a 'monoculture' look). I have tried adding interest by lightly brushing patches with watery acrylic paint to vary the colours of mine, with mixed results (it can result in serious hair loss if done too vigorously!)

My eye keeps being drawn to those metal silos on the farm on your backscene. I'm not sure what era Scrayingham depicts, but would they have been there, I wonder?

David.

Thanks Clayliner, the static grass wand is a home-made one from a tea-strainer and fly swatter costing about

James,

Looking good - the only suggestion is to get the iron out on your curtain just before the next outing - even if it gets slightly creased on the way, it will give that final professional appearance - but that is me just nit-picking ;)

Quote from: Elmgate on September 24, 2014, 10:36
James,

Looking good - the only suggestion is to get the iron out on your curtain just before the next outing - even if it gets slightly creased on the way, it will give that final professional appearance - but that is me just nit-picking ;)

One trick with the layout curtains is to role them not fold them for storage and when transporting the layout.

Brian Meldon

Thanks! The curtain was the last thing I found, I almost forgot it, but it is now stored with the fiddle yard so easy to lay myhands on. Next time, should there be one, it'll be crease free!

Cheers

J

Pleased to hear the show was a success, J - I imagine it will be a bit easier next time...

Apologies for querying the silos - I obviously haven't been paying enough attention!

David.

First things first, apologies for not updating this thread (again), but I've not really done anything on the layout itself for a while. I've mainly been doing stock related tasks, and some of those have been in my workbench thread.

The main layout news is that it is booked to appear at the Hartlepool show this coming weekend, (24th & 25th) so hopefully some of you will be able to drop by and make yourselves known!

With the show in mind, I got the layout out a month ago to check it all over and iron out any wrinkles that had occurred in storage. It was here that a large problem became apparent!

The large tree next to the tunnel entrance had been crushed when tidying up after the last session, it was my fault entirely, and I know exactly when and how it happened.

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I was left with some decisions; rebuild the tree, build a new tree, or rate some sort of tree felling cameo in the area. I opted for the first.

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Slowly but surely, I've been repairing the tree until it now stands proudly again, possibly not the same shape as it was, but never the less, it's there!

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As can be seen in one of the photos I made use of all sorts of support mechanisms while reconstructing, as the branches are delicate I couldn't clap them in place. So Peco stock boxes, tweezers, empty glue tubes and anything else that could be piled up as a support!

Fingers crossed for a terrible free trip to Hartlepool, and hopefully I'll see some of you there!

Cheers

J

It is indeed a fine tree, James, and well worth rebuilding. If it was dismountable (i.e. plugged into a hole in the baseboard) maybe it would survive future upheavals better?

What is the substrate of the tree? - it looks very finely branched.

David.

Thanks David, unfortunately it is permenantly fixed to the ground, I tied it removable, but couldn't get it to stand up straight due to its uneven shape.

The trunk and main branches are made from brushwood, from the slopes of Mt Vesuvius, with sea-moss and Woodlands Scenics foliage.

I keep thinking of adding a few more, but I don't want to over-do it!

Cheers

J

It's the asymmetry and randomness of the structure which is particularly convincing, but which in my experience is difficult to achieve in practice - with my tidy and symmetrical brain, at least. That's why natural forms generally tend to be better than man-made ones, I think.

As you may have seen elsewhere, I've been trying to grow my own seamoss this year. It's been horticulturally challenging but having finally got the stuff going I now realise it's an annual plant, so probably not going to go anywhere this year (still being at a non-harvestable stage). Maybe better luck next year...

David.

Do you have an alternate name for seamoss? If you have the seed package it should give a latin Name. All I can find is a sea weed.

Thanks

David

Quote from: theelliotts on October 22, 2015, 00:40
Do you have an alternate name for seamoss? If you have the seed package it should give a latin Name. All I can find is a sea weed.

Thanks

David

its also called reindeer moss

Teloxys aristata. ("sea foam" rather than "sea moss")
http://www.chilternseeds.co.uk/item_1235a_teloxys_aristata_sea_foam_seeds (http://www.chilternseeds.co.uk/item_1235a_teloxys_aristata_sea_foam_seeds)

I think reindeer moss is different, but it is also used for model vegetation (as bushes etc).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cladonia_rangiferina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cladonia_rangiferina)
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(There is also another "sea moss" - Irish moss or carrageen - for eating.)

One thing that's always niggled me is the open nature of the fiddle yard. As an 'L' shaped layout it's out of the way, but I always felt it needed some sort of enclosure.

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With the curtain that goes around the bottom to hide the legs, I couldn't just have something that would bolt on to the side so I decided on a hinged affair which will also double up as a cover for the track when transporting/storing the fiddle yard.

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It's quite a crude and rushed affair, as I conned it together from some spare bits of wood and cheap little brass hinges from my local DIY shop.

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It's all set up now and ready for the show this weekend, so that will mean extra effort for those who want to peer behind the scenes (which , let's face it, most of us do!)

Cheers

J

You might want to consider something on the underside too. Its not the accidental drop that a disaster but the landing!

David, hiding on the west coast of Canada.

Thanks for the advice, it is certainly something I will sort out before the next outing. Fortunately there weren't any disasters this time, but I don't want to tempt fate!

The Hartlepool show was a resounding success, many favourable comments were received, including several regarding it being a layout where 'something was actually moving!'. I was also able to offer advice to several people who were liking at starting out in 009, and they were all pointed in the direction of the 009 Society, NGRM and RMWeb, and Parkside/the 009 sales which are the best places to get things to get started from (in my opinion anyway).

I gratefully received an invitation to the Thirsk show in 2016 (Sunday, July 31st) and a possible trip to Alnwick, depending on accommodation availability. That gives me plenty of time to potter on with other bits and bobs while still looking forward to getting out on the road again!

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Most things ran pretty smoothly and there were no major failures, I even braved shunting with slate waggons, which all stayed on track despite their loose chain couplings!

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My next mission is to create some more layout specific stock, as at the moment there is a distinctly Welsh feel to it. Not a bad thing, but for a layout set in Yorkshire, it may be a bit OTT! One visiting loco and stock will suffice!  Ideally I'd like a genuine SHLR Hunslet, but as they were 18" gauge, I feel the in the conversion to 2' gauge, they would have been sold on anyway!

Cheers

J

J,

Nice photos. Who makes the grey/yellow diesel?

Jeff S.

Thanks Jeff, technically, I made it! But I suspect you mean it's origins! It's the ex-Chivers RC32 kit for Harlech Castle, running on the beautifully smooth Graham Farish 08 chassis with RT Models jackshaft drive modification.

I hope this helps!

Cheers

J

J,

That does help. Thanks for the info.

Jeff S.

I've just found this thread. Very interesting read and a very nice looking layout  :)

Thanks very much!

Scrayingham is at the Thirsk show on Sunday, so there should be a selection of photos appearing shortly after featuring the new rolling stock that's in the works at the moment!

Cheers

J

Looking forward to seeing the new rolling stock.

Jeff S.

Yesterday's show at Thirsk was a successful one, with new rolling stock performing well and several favourable comments.

The upstairs room where the layout was positioned was rather warm and as such it took a while for everything to get used to the temperature. Once settled however, things were fine, although it did make operating quite uncomfortable at times!

Stock wise, this was the first outing for my new loco 'Gamecock' built from the excellent Small Run Batch kit. There are still a few details left to complete, but it was certainly presentable and capable of doing anything asked of it during the day. Most of the time it was seen on the Sand Hutton set. As the show progressed and it got more running, it became smoother and quieter.

The articulated pair I've be been building were also in use, though not yet glazed. They were paired with the observation carriage in the same Coronation livery and a teak brake third. The gap between the pair is very satisfying, and hopefully I'll add some more to this rake now that l know the concept works!

My assistant operator also provided a guest loco for the show. An A1 models Kerr Stuart, mounted on a very responsive Bachmann Plymouth chassis. He built and painted the loco in a week leading up to the show, as his first effort in 009. It looked spot on and performed very well. Of course being non-vac fitted, it couldn't go near passenger workings!

And now follows a few photos from the show

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Photo : G Watson

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Extra visitor in the form of A Cracknell's Meriddian Kerr Stuart for comparison.
Photo : G Watson

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There aren't any more exhibitions in the pipeline for Scrayingham at present, but if anyone is interested, please do get in touch!

Cheers

J

This is just a quick note to let everyone know that Scrayingham will be at Narrow Gauge North this coming Saturday (11th March) at Pudsey Civic Hall, Dawsons Corner, Pudsey, W. Yorks, LS28 5TA

For more details, see here

https://www.narrowgaugenorth.org.uk/

Hopefully some of you will pop by and say hello! As ever, if anyone takes any photos, please post them on here!

Cheers

J

It will be good to see it "in the flesh" at last

An excellent advert for 009 Jaymz, hope any visiting exhibition managers take note and follow up with invites.

Thanks very much gents, fingers crossed for further invites, though sadly none were made at the show itself.

Narrow Gauge North went very well on Saturday, it was a busy show so I barely got chance for photos myself, but saw plenty of people with cameras!

Flying solo made it quite difficult to get out for a look around, but in my brief sojourn it looked like a very good show (thanks to Adam from Byr-a-Cyrliog for taking over so I could have a comfort break!)

It was nice to chat to some of you and there were some very favourable comments for which I am very grateful! I did overhear mumblings about smooth running, which was most flattering as it was one of my kitbuilt locos (Brian Madge Velinheli) that was being referred to!

I did manage a couple of photos, and there was a mini gathering when Adam's Dolgoch was brought over for a photo shoot

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Mine is the lighter, almost luminous in comparison green!
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Overall a most enjoyable show, if a little tiring, and hopefully it won't be too long until I'm back out again! I'm still aiming to have a few more items of bespoke stock available so that it looks more like an ex-LNER line and a bit less North-Wales (not that that's a bad thing!)

More updates as and when,  and of course, your questions and comments are always welcome!

Cheers

J

Indeed, Scrayingham forms it's own box and is kept on brackets off the floor with a dust sheet over the fiddle yard and legs below so it should be pretty well protected. It does make things a little awkward to get out for working on or photographing but I'd rather that than it be open to damage!

Cheers

J

I saw three exhibition managers at NG North last Saturday and had a chat with them all.

If you have full details of your layout and how it is transported drop me a PM.

There are a number of exhibitions in Lancashire and the N West that will accommodate NG layouts, may not be 2017 but could be 2018.

Regards,
Stan.

Thanks for that Stan, I'll send my details over when I'm at my computer, it's a single PDF, but should have all the required info!

Cheers

J

J -

I confess I haven't kept up with the Scrayingham story of late so it was good to see it featured in the latest News. I especially like No.14 in its smart black LNER livery and the 'imaginative' articulated Coronation set - some nice imagineering. Also interesting to see where BR got the idea for the yellow first class stripe from...

Cheers,

David.