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Modelling => Locomotives => Topic started by: rod335 on July 16, 2015, 10:36

Title: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: rod335 on July 16, 2015, 10:36
As some of you will be aware, the Society has now acquired this loco for the Heritage Collection. It is, predictably, quite large, probably 5mm (or more) scale having been rebuilt from it's original (even larger) size in the 1950s by PDH to 'something closer to scale proportions'. It has a Ks motor with a large (1") flywheel and runs surprisingly well bearing in mind it's age and the amount of wear in it. We do not have the tender, I think it had two different ones during it's life and at least one now exists as a scenic item at Dundreich Station. They MIGHT be reunited one day, who knows?

There will be photographs and a short article in the RM October issue.
Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: MickT on July 16, 2015, 11:23
Pleased and relieved that Angus arrived safely with you Rod!

I've been out of circulation and in the hands of the tender mercies of Dorset County Hospital for a couple of days and am now prisoner in the upstairs of my humble hovel for the next 6 weeks as I managed to pass the "hopping on crutches up and down stairs" test on the hospital main staircase but they wouldn't listen when I told them my pre-war house has a narrow nearly vertical set of stairs complete with 90 degree bend near the top, so I managed to "hop" up them but no way can I get down other than jump! Charity packs gratefully received.

On the plus side, the acres of white plaster encasing my left leg looks ripe for a bit of practice with a pack of woodland scenics found in the wardrobe in my new prison. I wonder how the orthopaedic dept will react in a couple of weeks when I get taken in for a progress report!

Mick
Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: rod335 on July 16, 2015, 12:25
Probably think it's a fungal infection and give you a course of antibiotics! Seriously although you don't want to be incapacitated, I am glad you took the plunge and succumbed to the knife. Get well soon.
Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: B.Meldon on July 16, 2015, 12:25
Here is a photo of Angus from 2003 (I think?):

(https://forum.009society.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.009dutch.nl%2Farchive%2F2008%2Falbum%2F2008pdh%2Fimages%2F2005angus3-mp.jpg&hash=ff10177b03bc93d8402663467b09590c10e152b8)

(Originating web page with more information: http://www.009dutch.nl/archive/2008/pages/epdh.htm)

Brian Meldon
Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: garrywhiting on July 16, 2015, 13:00
Another of Mick's photos of Angus and a short article in the August edition of 009 News --- which is in the post -- and should be delivered to most of you by Saturday or Monday,

Garry
Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: Malcolm on July 16, 2015, 22:23
Rod

Glad Angus now in your tender care and yes hopefully we can arrange for a meeting of loco and tender at a later date.  The tender has no chassis but I am sure we could do something about that quite easily.

You have I think mentioned this possibility of two different tenders in the past but I have not found anything in either the published or the unpublished photos to suggest more than one tender though of course it is possible a second smaller tender was provided at the time of re-building.  Can you point me towards any relevant photos.  Thanks.  

With regards to the Oct RM you have beaten me to it.  Do you need any photos of the tender?  (Edit - silly me of course RM have at least one photo showing the tender at Dundreich )

I have had an e-mail from the RM suggesting they may publish in the Sept issue a photo of the green metal cabinet in reply to the letter in the July RM suggesting the spares cabinet was a wooden Meccano product.

Garry and team must have been working extra fast stuffing envelopes as my 009 News arrived this morning.  Thanks team, it was a nice surprise.

Malcolm

Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: MickT on July 17, 2015, 12:56
My copy of The News arrived this morning - thanks to the Stuffing Team for extremely efficient work this month!

Very nearly correct Brian! - The photo was actually taken a year later in 2004 when Ted brought Rae Bridge to the Wessex NGM event at Exbury Gardens. Here's a photo of Angus that I took same day.

(https://forum.009society.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi224.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd239%2FMick6126%2FDsc00057_zpsrb1n2v2s.jpg&hash=eb5c8f435685d83176cb8997cda97ae885d89f5c) (http://s224.photobucket.com/user/Mick6126/media/Dsc00057_zpsrb1n2v2s.jpg.html)

Mick
From my Upstairs Prison - but at least I can sit by the window in the front bedroom and keep an eye on what the neighbours are doing over the road and watch out for any talent waiting for the bus outside my gate! Listening to the 2nd day of the test match on the bbc website as well - very depressing.....................
Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: rod335 on July 23, 2015, 09:17
Malcolm- I had assumed a new tender when the original loco was rebuilt to the smaller size in the mid fifties. This is, however, only speculation on my part.
Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: Malcolm on July 23, 2015, 18:27
Rod
Out of interest what is the width over the cab?
Malcolm
Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: rod335 on July 23, 2015, 21:07
26mm.
Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: Malcolm on July 25, 2015, 19:38
Rod
Interesting.  The tender, which I am 99.99% certain is the 1950's original, is only 21mm in width across the body or 23mm if you measure across the top of the tender which has a slightly flared edge to it.
Malcolm
Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: rod335 on July 25, 2015, 19:57
Malcolm- NGA has a pre-rebuild 3/4 rear view showing the tender on page 73. I think the photo on page 65 shows the same tender and is post-rebuild. Most later views seem to show the loco running without the tender.
Title: Re: Craig and Mertonford loco Angus
Post by: Malcolm on July 26, 2015, 20:30
Rod
It is definitely the same tender and as far as I can tell has never been rebuilt.  I know Philip tells us he rebuilt Angus but I keep looking at the photos and am hard pushed to see where the cuts were made.  Any clues from Angus himself?
Malcolm