Has anyone else apart from JDF had any experience of using the Roco outside frame 0-6-0 chassis for a long period of time?
I have been using two of these locos unaltered since they were first available several years ago now and have had no problems at all. They still run as well as they did when new, in other words very well indeed. But up to now I have not purchased any more because of the problems encountered by John as described on his website and on various postings.
See:
http://www.009society.com/forum/index.php?topic=107.msg281#msg281
Has any one else had any problems with them or like my self is anyone else very happy with their long term reliability?
My own experience with them has shown that they do last well on my layouts, unlike some other locos that do not, and because of this I will probably now get some more if the situation arises.
Brian Meldon
Hi Brian
On this forum, Invercloy has begun to experience difficulties and 11 others have reported the same findings to me.
I have to point out that County Gate does a lot of heavy running under load up gradients for prolonged periods.
regards
John
I can confirm what John has said... mine has run for about 4 hours now. By the sound of it doesn't have as pronounced a wobble as John's did, but it is noticeable.
I have a different issue, an HF110 I bought a few years ago locked up when I got it home wouldn't move again. As it was new, I simply took it back and exchanged it for another one.
Now another one I bought second hand a year ago has done the same. I intend to open it up and find out what's going on, but I have heard that some batches of HF110's have a tendency to do this and is caused by bad plastic...
Quote from: Allscales on May 10, 2014, 09:32
I have a different issue, an HF110 I bought a few years ago locked up when I got it home wouldn't move again. As it was new, I simply took it back and exchanged it for another one.
Now another one I bought second hand a year ago has done the same. I intend to open it up and find out what's going on, but I have heard that some batches of HF110's have a tendency to do this and is caused by bad plastic...
Thanks for posting this new information.
I must say that two I have are still performing very well indeed more than 5 years after I started this topic!
But I never did get any more, mainly because of the problems others have had with them.
Brian Meldon
I think the running problem John experienced was that he loads the loco up with extra weight far in excess of the Roco designer's most pessimistic specification. John then expects the loco to then pull very heavy rolling stock up significant gardients on a long exhibition layout all day.
I am suprised that any commercial chassis can survive those conditions for long.
I have 3 of the HF110 engines, which run beautifully, and I think that they will see my modelling days out.
One of mine locks up, it's simply the valve gear binding and throwing the front axle off alignment. See if this is the case on yours. Sadly mine had been modified when I found this out, so no refund! Needless to say I won't be buying any more in a hurry...
I fixed my HF110: Oiling was all that was required...
Very small drops of oil on the valve gear, followed by some oil on the gears.
In this particular case I did strip the loco all the way down to the chasis (which is remarkably easy) applied the oil and then manually turned the gears until the oil had spread evenly.
Runs like a dream again...
Still no problems with my ones six years on!
But they are in original condition.
Brian Meldon
I have 2 red HF110C's, and a green one without a tender, and my experiences at exhibitions are very good.
All three have seen intensive use these past few years, 2x 2 days from 10-5 at Valkenburg, at Ontraxs 3 long days in a row from 10-5, and at Froissy 1 dat from 10-5.
Inbetween they have ran at home, or at open days at the club.
None of the locomotives has ever failed me, and apart from them running a little warm, one of the red ones did 2 days without any additional service or stops at Ontraxs.
Most of the time the little green one is used for shunting, but the red ones pull trains all day, riding the layout in circles.
All are DCC operated.
The problem with the valve gear has occurred to me too, but that can be easily fixed with a very thin strip (0,5 mm) of Evergreen pushed between the cilinders and the frame. This way there is more clearance between the valve gear and coupling rods, and there is no more problem (with thanks to Gerard van de Weijer for this tip!) .
On another forum this bargain offer has been announced, an HF110 tank loco, oval of track, DC controller and 4 log bolsters for only
That set is still showing up as "Pre-order"....
Does anyone know the loco number to be used? As it's a bargain...
Quote from: Allscales on November 16, 2016, 21:31
That set is still showing up as "Pre-order"....
Does anyone know the loco number to be used? As it's a bargain...
See this e-bay item from Germany:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162282490927
Brian Meldon
Mine came from Modellbahnshop-Lippe and was cheaper than that (taking into account postage) at about
Loco only from UK seller for
That's a bargain! Wonder why they have suddenly become so cheap...
In this case it is split from the starter set.
Brian Meldon
I've got 4 of the chassis running on my layout and so far I've had to replace 1 motor and on another motor I had to tweek the brushes in the motor so that they touched the commutator. Those 2 have done about 18 shows with approx 3 - 4 hours running per show. No sign of any wobbling on the newer ones.
Quote from: B.Meldon on November 17, 2016, 08:22
Quote from: Allscales on November 16, 2016, 21:31
That set is still showing up as "Pre-order"....
Does anyone know the loco number to be used? As it's a bargain...
See this e-bay item from Germany:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162282490927
Brian Meldon
Now available in the UK from Kernow Models
Quote from: Crichworkshop2000 on November 18, 2016, 20:25
I've got 4 of the chassis running on my layout and so far I've had to replace 1 motor and on another motor I had to tweek the brushes in the motor so that they touched the commutator. Those 2 have done about 18 shows with approx 3 - 4 hours running per show. No sign of any wobbling on the newer ones.
I have also as yet had no problems.
Brian Meldon
OK, got one...
Complete set purchased yesterday just short of
It is not the first time Roco have done this with H0e sets. About 10 years ago they did a run of the DCC starter set with the outside frame tank loco (in DR black) and two larger bogie wagons along with their basic DCC controller and track for about the price of the normal locos on their own.
Again back then lots of sets were split and sold as separate parts.
Brian Meldon
Ran it in last night-runs superbly
Look forward to Wimborne on Saturday
Steve
Brian: Yes, it's the whole set...
I saw it at Wimborne for