I'm building two Parkside Dundas kits (DM34 and DM 29)
What colours would the inside of V of R/Glyn Valley Open Two Compartment 4-Wheel Coach be painted?
Similarly what colour would the inside of V of R/Glyn Valley Two Compartment 4-Wheel Coach be painted?
Thanks!
As they are a freelance design the colours are entirely up to you...
But as a pointer the interiors would probably be an off-white / cream colour on the sides and probably underside of the roof with a dark wood floor. Variations might be decorative wood panelling (marquetry) or upulstory (plain or basic patterns - not leopard print!) to match the seat covers and carpet (in first class), maybe some prints or a mirror above the seat backs.
Externally there is even more variety as you could have a single colour or a two tone livery (lighter colour from the window bottom edge upwards, darker one below), though often the ends were black as this does not show the dirt. Roofs often started out white, but this was a lead-based paint which rapidly discoloured and picked up dirt from loco chimneys, etc so a various shade of matt grey (down to almost black) will probably work.
Hope that helps.
Mirrors can be represented by using the tin foil from the bottoms of Mr Kiplings jam tarts etc etc. They're a little more substantial than ordinary cooking foil and make exceedingly good mirrors (disclaimer: other makes are abailable)
Carriage prints are available as photographic reproductions (Tiny Signs?)
I also use white paint to represent the antimacassars on seat backs.
most of my interior bulkheads are painted to represent scratchcombed or panelled wood but as Julien says, it's a matter of personal preference.
I generally have my seats one colour (a subdued green, blue or dark red) but if I were to suggest a pattern I'd choose two or three suitable colours, paint the seats in a basic colour and then dry-brush a patterning onto that.
Julien, Tigger,
Many thanks for the advice, much appreciated.
I think I will go with the off-white / cream and the dark wood floor. I'm not sure I'm up to creating wood panelling yet. I like the idea of black ends on the exterior too, good advice.
I love the idea of mirrors and prints on the walls. Also it gives me an excuse to eat Jam Tarts :)
Many thanks
Stephen
Quote from: Stephen on January 26, 2015, 21:21
Julien, Tigger,
Many thanks for the advice, much appreciated.
I think I will go with the off-white / cream and the dark wood floor. I'm not sure I'm up to creating wood panelling yet. I like the idea of black ends on the exterior too, good advice.
I love the idea of mirrors and prints on the walls. Also it gives me an excuse to eat Jam Tarts :)
Many thanks
Stephen
You need an excuse? ;D
Glad we could help (both with the coach and the excuse!)
Regarding seat covers, could they have been black horsehair fabric perhaps? It would have been been the hard wearing wipe-clean fabric of its era.
I'm sure I've ridden in an old carriages that were upholstered with horsehair. It would have been the midnight newspaper train from Paddington to Carmarthen.
From memory of reading the first of the Milner books on the GVT they had (I think) dark blue fabric in First class and deep red in Second but had something - leatherette? - in the smoking compartment(s) to better resist cigarette burns. 3rd class was often wooden slatted seats, but on the L&B the slats were alternate shades (dark & light) either different woods or most likely different stains to the wood.
IICR horsehair is the stuffing in the upholstery...
For the first class seats in my coaches I used Humbrol Prussian Blue. Looks very acceptable with white antimacassars.
Third class seats are in a light brown.
Quote from: JulienW on January 28, 2015, 10:46
IICR horsehair is the stuffing in the upholstery...
It is a traditional furnishing fabric:
http://modellifabrics.com/upholstery-fabric/horsehair (http://modellifabrics.com/upholstery-fabric/horsehair)
I believe the horsehair used for weaving is tail hair.
Back in the bad old days, horse hair was a source of anthrax and horse-hair plasterers had to be careful (again, so I believe)
Back to modelling - You actually paint in anti-macassers??????
It's true about the anthrax, the firm I used to work for had the capability to test old plaster in situ for anthrax, we got a panic call to one of the London terminii, can't remember which one, as they had exposed some during some renovation work without realising it was there and needed to know if it had anthrax in it. Fortunately it did not.
Frank
One of the things I love about this forum is that a discussion can transition from coach colours to anthrax.. great ;D