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Modelling => Trackwork => Topic started by: danny on January 03, 2015, 23:28

Title: N-gauge track pins
Post by: danny on January 03, 2015, 23:28
I just wondered if there are small track pins for N gauge, as the ones I use for 009 and 00 usually are too big for the thin sleepers. Because I am only building a test track, I have used N gauge track.
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: Brian Mosby on January 04, 2015, 01:30
Peco cat No SL-14
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: danny on January 04, 2015, 15:39
OK, thanks, I'll give them a try.
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: B.Meldon on January 05, 2015, 08:39
I find the Peco SL-14 pins are too long.

Peco used to make a shorter pin of the same diameter, but they do not list this anymore. (I think I have an old label somewhere and if I can find it I will post the number.)

However even with the thin pins I always pre-drill the sleepers as just pushing the pins through tends to distort the sleepers somewhat.

Brian Meldon
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: jimowers on January 05, 2015, 19:18
I use the Peco SL-14 but only as temporary locators whilst the PVA glue under my track dries. Once I have set the track in ballast as well I get absolutely no movement in the track or the trackbed. Am I in a majority of one in doing this or do others agree?
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: Hugh Norwood on January 05, 2015, 20:04
I too rely only on the PVA to keep the track in place after it has set.
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: cnw6847 on January 05, 2015, 20:08
Quote from: jimowers on January 05, 2015, 19:18
I use the Peco SL-14 but only as temporary locators whilst the PVA glue under my track dries. Once I have set the track in ballast as well I get absolutely no movement in the track or the trackbed. Am I in a majority of one in doing this or do others agree?

pretty much what I do
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: Harry Mantheakis on January 05, 2015, 22:47
I wish I had done that too - I ended up pulling out all the pins because I could not stand the sight of them - and sure enough the ballast glue kept the track firmly in place.
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on January 06, 2015, 08:16
Pretty much what I do.

I have heard that it is better not to use high quality wood glue as it sets rock hard, but to use cheaper school/craft PVA as the set is softer. Apparently this helps noise dampening. Also it is less water resistant and so the track can be lifted if needed after a good soaking. Latex-based glue is also used, but I understand it yellows and deteriorates.
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: danny on January 06, 2015, 15:10
On most of my layouts I just use PVA and no track pins, however I wonder if this will work on a test track (ie no ballast). On my 'proper' layouts the track is obviously ballasted which helps keep it in place.
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: jimowers on January 06, 2015, 16:04
A good point abo
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: Hugh Norwood on January 06, 2015, 19:28
Quote from: danny on January 06, 2015, 15:10
On most of my layouts I just use PVA and no track pins, however I wonder if this will work on a test track (ie no ballast). On my 'proper' layouts the track is obviously ballasted which helps keep it in place.
It works OK round the back of Angst in the fiddle yard!
Title: Re: N-gauge track pins
Post by: danny on January 17, 2015, 22:26
Quote from: jimowers on January 06, 2015, 16:04My main OO9 trest track is Tillig HO/HOe dual gauge

I did consider this as well (could have saved width), but it's code 83 (not 100) so I wasn't sure if all of my 00 stock (cheaper/older locos with deeper flanges) would run on it. This was when I was going to have a continuous loop around the (very small) room, but the shelf would have taken up too much space so it is now just going to be a straight line up one wall. Another point is that I think for large quantities of track it worked out a lot cheaper to buy peco 00 and N separately than Tillig dual gauge.