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Modelling => Locomotives => Topic started by: Alan Feldon on September 06, 2014, 17:27

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Title: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Alan Feldon on September 06, 2014, 17:27
Well as Ross wants some Kitsons heres some

First up the original Centre models kit ,but on a chassis kit obtainable to 009 society members many years ago

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-innxgPksWN0/UWwCkIZmJZI/AAAAAAAABs0/miI3K9HHIZA/s800/P3140008.JPG)

Next up a further model .this time from Meridian but with centre models valve gear.It is on a lilliput mk 1 chassis with replacement axles and dummy frames

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yvUgpA9OPI8/UWwEQ2I8OhI/AAAAAAAABtk/yQZ-NrmmkTo/s800/P3140014.JPG)

And last for this posting a Meridian kit a la Roger Christian on a bachman 2-8-0 chassis

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ozb1O_AKnIg/UWwDeqEMevI/AAAAAAAABtM/xRb5gjrfhc0/s800/P3140011.JPG)

More to follow
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Ross Chapman on September 06, 2014, 20:20
Wow those are some lovely looking models Alan!

They are giving me ideas for mine. Looking forward to seeing more (and thank you very much for taking the time and effort to put the pictures up).

Why did the body kit for these stop being available?
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Alan Feldon on September 07, 2014, 08:10
Ross
I have no idea regarding availability of these kits .
Your best bet is to contact either Andrew Hastie or Pete Wilson direct at Meridian
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Ross Chapman on September 08, 2014, 23:06
Alan,
Thanks I will drop them a line and see what they say.

Looking forward to seeing some more of your modifications to the basic kit.
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Alan Feldon on September 12, 2014, 16:15
A few more

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D_6-fF1ca7Q/UWwC886YXUI/AAAAAAAABs8/L9snFsTATCQ/s800/P3140009.JPG)

This is based on the 4-8-4 t on the cyprus railway.Again the Meridian kit on a Piko chassis with centre models valve gear.I do not claim any accuracy for this as it was based on a photo in CM.The large object on top of the boiler is I assume the oil tank,although other photos i have seen show the oil tank behind the cab.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-30crkw-uxFU/UWwDO6HEKOI/AAAAAAAABtE/UHtANgW2bQQ/s800/P3140010.JPG)

Real scratch building this time .It is built out of roofing lead,with embossed plasticard stuck on.Chassis is again a Piko
It was based on a print of a Barsi loco so again accuracy not guarenteed.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Cg4AzhDFLug/UWwDuOKpXLI/AAAAAAAABtU/nHunSLzyRmY/s800/P3140012.JPG)

This one is s/b based on one that ran on the FCAB,this one on a bachman baltic chassis
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: MickT on September 12, 2014, 17:45
Are you sure it was a Baltic (4-6-4) chassis Alan? It looks more like it started out as a 4-8-4 to me?

Seen these before, but I'll say it again - super atmospheric models and some great imagineering!

Mick
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Ross Chapman on September 12, 2014, 19:35
Wow, i am amazed at all the variations you have been able to get from one kit just so far, it just goes to show what you can do with a bit of skill and imagination!
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Alan Feldon on September 13, 2014, 06:53
Too busy making models to count the wheels Mick!You are of course correct-silly me.
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Alan Feldon on September 15, 2014, 16:35
Another one

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r11vFrzbcK8/VBcFcFVjI4I/AAAAAAAACgY/hunHbrIcf7M/s800/P9141059.JPG)

S/b again from plasticard
The original ran on the FCAB but was in fact a KitsonMeyer.Not surprisingly I couldn't find an n guage chassis of this type ,so used a Rowa mallet that I had.

Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: pilotfriend on September 16, 2014, 12:34
(https://forum.009society.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.009.cd2.com%2Falbums%2FCountyGatelocomotives%2F10.jpg&hash=a169df20b4f07f6120afaa8ad4c8b3c8becfb998)
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Ross Chapman on September 16, 2014, 23:08
I really like that Meyer too, if my skills were good enough I'd copy it.
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: pilotfriend on September 17, 2014, 07:54
Someone has already
(https://forum.009society.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1271.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj622%2Fimortim1%2FKM_035_zpsbab4d09a.jpg&hash=38e6165b3b4682bf876ae2fb1a98baa046b3a0d7)
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Ross Chapman on September 17, 2014, 10:08
Ahh now that I did not know.

The only Meyer kit I was aware of was the one for Monarch but that's not a Kitson Meyer.
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: tedp on September 17, 2014, 11:16
Not a Meyer, but let me show you my beast once again.

(https://forum.009society.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.009dutch.nl%2Farchive%2F2013%2Fgallery48%2Fimages%2FIMG_4689.jpg&hash=180b1019ee2b38cf82979ac916aee9aa61321842)
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Ross Chapman on September 17, 2014, 11:24
That looks great Ted, is this the same one that appeared in the 009 Newsletter?
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Alan Feldon on September 17, 2014, 16:39
Well after John/Ivan's creations back to mundane plastic
The last real one

this is another FCAB one

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-251a1oJ4VbY/VBmn27r-wOI/AAAAAAAACgw/tpGhodNkygI/s800/P9161062.JPG)

This is more correct than the previous one,as i described the build on NGRMonline and my mistakes were pointed out.
I'll leave Mick to count the wheels
and now for the whimsical ones.
Hattons at one time were knocking out bachman mallets at about
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: tedp on September 17, 2014, 19:15
Ross: yes it is the same as in the 009 News.

Alan, it seems you went from the Centre Models / Meridian kit to plastic at some stage. How much is plastic and how much is Meridian kit? Looking at the side views you pressed in the rivets from behind.
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Alan Feldon on September 18, 2014, 07:49
Ted
The original 2 L&M,the CGR and the Roger Christian crib are from w/m kits
The Barsi is sheet lead and all the rest are plasticard
I draw out on the rear of the plasticard where the rivets are to go and then impress the "rivets" down the lines with a clock gear wheel-plays havoc with the fingers!
Alan
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Ross Chapman on September 18, 2014, 08:31
Quote from: Alan Feldon on September 17, 2014, 16:39
This is more correct than the previous one,as i described the build on NGRMonline and my mistakes were pointed out.
I'll leave Mick to count the wheels
and now for the whimsical ones.
Hattons at one time were knocking out bachman mallets at about
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Alan Feldon on September 18, 2014, 15:06
Ross
The rumour was that bachman wanted to get rid of them as they were bringing out a new version.They had previously been selling at a reduced price of
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Ross Chapman on September 18, 2014, 15:34
Bum, I always seem to miss the good stuff!

Being doing a bit of research and I found that the line I am going to say most of my locos are copies of (the Cyprus Railway) actually had some quite chunky 4-8-4T Kitsons so maybe I can excuse having a big Kitson -maybe a 4-6-4T?

Don't know why, but the more I see them, the more I think that Kitsons just look "right" on narrow gauge!
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Alan Feldon on September 18, 2014, 20:27
Youv'e probably guessed Ross but i think the same.
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: JulienW on September 19, 2014, 09:23
Me three! ;D
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Russell Brown on September 19, 2014, 11:44
I would agree too 
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Ross Chapman on September 19, 2014, 13:01
LOL, at this rate Alan will have my trying to figure out how to get a kit and make Mini-Kitson's!

0-6-2T Kitson anyone?
Title: Re: Kitsons real and imagined
Post by: Alan Feldon on September 20, 2014, 07:29
Ross
I really like big engines because for me the more wheels they have and weight they run better.
I started off over 40 years ago with eggerbahn and as a result nearly gave up on 009.
My saviour was that i decided to build for my first scratch built attempt a double fairlie and used as a chassis the bachman GP40 which was starting to be imported.
It ran so well that I never looked back from those days and vowed that any chassis i used would have a minimum of 6 wheel pick up.Any tender locos I had also picked up from the tender.
Over the years the locos have got bigger and bigger and the smaller locs have been sold off.
I like the look of Kitsons and hence they are the biggest "class" of locos on my layout,and as you say you can alter the basic kit to suit a variety of other Kitsons(not perhaps accurately but at least a representation).i in any event do not consider any of my models "scale" but representations, as many are built from photos without any measurements known,and we also all heve the same problem of the electric motor being in the wrong place!