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Modelling => Rolling stock => Topic started by: tedp on March 22, 2013, 21:49

Title: Loco coal only
Post by: tedp on March 22, 2013, 21:49
The odd man out on the 17-wagon coal train I have been building from Colin Ashby kits was a single side door wagon, half completed by the late Reinier Hendriksen. I added an end bulkhead, end strapping and couplings. It is taller than the rest, has different brake gear and is the perfect candidate for a special job.

The C&DR never had a loco coal wagon. I'm not even certain if such a thing ever existed on a narrow gauge railway, although I seem to remember the Ffestiniog had a six-wheel wagon used for the purpose.

So I decided to turn the odd wagon into the C&DR's loco coal wagon. I painted it black and made up lettering on the computer. If you paint the rear with varnish and cut narrow strips of paper that fit the planking, the extra thickness of the paper doesn't show up very much, especially after weathering.

The lettering strips are cut out from the sheet and fixed to the side of the vehicle using semi-matte varnish. After this has dried, the side is varnished all over. The white edges of the paper soak in the varnish and won't show up. Here are a few photos.

The paper strips being fixed to the sides:

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The side with the door has the legend spaced out over the panels and the door:

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The blank side has a different layout:

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The wagon hasn't yet been weathered and still lacks a load of coal. The brake levers are hidden under the sides which will have to be changed. It shouldn't be too difficult to fit new ones outside the body.
Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: Isle of Stoner on March 24, 2013, 17:22
Looks nice, the 'transfers' work really well.

The F&WHR now uses the ex SAR B wagons for loco coal. The 6 wheel coal wagon had originally been built for flour I believe.

John W
Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: tedp on March 25, 2013, 13:51
Thanks, John. Although the SAR ones are nice enough, I think the old 6-wheeler had more appeal!

Here is a final photo showing the loco coal wagon after it was used to transport a particularly dusty batch of coal, and a bit of rain washed out the dust. Some rust has appeared on the ironwork as well, and it appears a top corner was knocked during unloading:

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Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: Isle of Stoner on March 25, 2013, 18:47
Completely agree about the wagons. Officially they are lovely as are the NGG16s but with my private train spotters hat on they are both ugly as sin. each to their own.

John W
Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: Tigger on March 27, 2013, 12:13
An excellent job, Ted!

On the L&TR we use three dedicated coal wagons to take domestic or loco coal up the valley.  Very often the return working, instead of being empty, is used to transport slate waste down to the town for the council's 'let's dig the road up and re-surface it to hold up the traffic' schemes.
Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: tedp on March 28, 2013, 17:11
Thanks, David - domestic or industrial coal has been sadly neglected on the C&DR, but I now have four wagons for that kind of traffic, the sixteen new wagons and the eight scratchbuilt on a Lima chassis taking care of the regular coal traffic to Dunalistair, in two 12-wagon trains doing balanced workings.

I am going to make up a few wagon markers to route the loco coal wagon and the four domestic/industrial ones, adding extra loads to the regular trains or the goods.
Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: MickT on March 29, 2013, 12:08
Which are the other 3 wagons Ted?

Mick
President, UK Chapter, C&DR spotters club

Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: tedp on April 07, 2013, 12:28
Coal wagon stock now is as follows:

CC Co. no. 1-8  -  Scratchbuilt 3.5 ton on Lima BR coal wagon chassis.
CC Co. no. 9-12 - Scratchbuilt 4 ton on shortened Minitrix chassis.
CC Co. no. 20-35 - Colin Ashby kit

C&DR no. 99 - loco coal wagon, probably Colin Ashby with some modifications. It may have been a WHR coal wagon originally, looking at the sides, only one of which has a side door, the other is blank.

CC Co. nos 1-8 and 20-35 make up the two 12-wagon coal trains (total 24).
CC Co. nos 9-12 are used for domestic and industrial deliveries (total 4).
C&DR no. 99 is used for loco coal only.
Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: MickT on April 08, 2013, 13:01
Thanks Ted, all understood now! Are the replaced Roco hoppers/tubs going to be discarded or re-roled?

Mick
Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: tedp on April 08, 2013, 16:20
For the moment they are on the historic stock roster.
Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: Tigger on April 09, 2013, 12:54
Quote from: tedp on April 08, 2013, 16:20
For the moment they are on the historic stock roster.
You're as bad as I am, with my Museum Stocklist!! ;D
Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: petersmith1942 on April 09, 2013, 13:29
cant think what the shortest time has been since parting with some of my accumulated modelling stuff and then finding how much I wish I hadnt but it happens every time
Peter Smith
Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: Krizzy on April 09, 2013, 15:20
Ted

Are the axle holes in your mine tubs worn oval or enlarged and if so how did you return them back to the round. They must have covered miles and miles of kilometers on the C&D?

Roger
Title: Re: Loco coal only
Post by: tedp on May 10, 2013, 09:07
Apologies for having missed your question last month Roger.

The Roco tubs were lubricated using graphite, so the inside bearings didn't suffer too much. However, they have always run rather stiffly, so I'm glad with my free-running Colin Ashby wagons.