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Modelling => Trackwork => Topic started by: berryr99 on January 17, 2013, 15:36

Title: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: berryr99 on January 17, 2013, 15:36
I have attached a picture of the underside of one of the new Peco mainline turnouts.

There is a silver wire which runs from the frog and up towards the top of the picture. This wire is to enable polarity switching once I have bonded the stock rails and wired in the switch

The question is - should the wire that is loose be sleeved to prevent a short circuit ?

I have a number of turnouts to wire and would appreciate your views

Thank you

Bob Berry

Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: theelliotts on January 17, 2013, 16:17
Drill a hole through the baseboard under the frog and thread this wire through. Use it to switch the frog. The package the switch came in should have had instructions with it.

Good Luck
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: petersmith1942 on January 17, 2013, 17:16
I have lots of these points on my layout wired for polarity switching and have never needed to sleeve this wire. It is well worth fitting the swtches as has been discussed many times in this forum. I find these points a massive improvement on the sharp radius type
Peter Smith
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: berryr99 on January 17, 2013, 17:55
Thanks guys

There were instructions about how to wire the turnout but not about sleeving the wire

Bob
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: petersmith1942 on January 17, 2013, 20:07
no problem, must admit I treat Peco almost like M and S and trust them implicitely. If they dont mention sleeves, then no sleeves. It does mean you have to accept some of their idiosyncracies like Peco for decades ignoring the need for polarity switching and M and S charging for bags but hey ho
Peter Smith
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: berryr99 on January 18, 2013, 16:06
Yes,

I've never really had a problem with Peco but I do find their turnout instructions a bit hard to follow - sort of written for the expert.

Bob
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: F2Andy on March 01, 2013, 20:18
I have a couple ofkind of related questions.

The first is, why do the Y points not have that wire attached? Do I have to solder one on myself?

The second is, why is there a break in the rails of the mainline turnouts between the pivots and the frog? It is not an electrical break - there is wire across the gap.
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: berryr99 on March 02, 2013, 12:24
 I suspect that the Y turnouts are not to the Mainline standard: they will be an earlier version

The break is there to allow Polarity wiring if that's what you want to do - you break the wire underneath when doing this

Robert
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: Graeme Dunbar on March 02, 2013, 17:30
I believe so too:
http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=tempOO9 (http://www.peco-uk.com/page.asp?id=tempOO9)

I see Peco no longer use the moniker "crazy" track but call them "rough" sleepers.
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: Tigger on March 04, 2013, 13:09
Good move by Peco, if you ask me!

'Crazy Track' is most definitely a late 60s / early 70s name and it fell in with the then idea of all things narrow gauge.  Anyone studying the permanent way of the Festiniog or the Lynton might have something to say about that!  By today's measures, the title of 'Crazy Track' is really rather tacky!
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: JulienW on March 05, 2013, 09:58
I still think they should have kept the name, and used the "Sensible track" moniker for the new stuff :laugh:
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: MickT on March 05, 2013, 11:53
Quote from: JulienW on March 05, 2013, 09:58
I still think they should have kept the name, and used the "Sensible track" moniker for the new stuff :laugh:

But having a "sensible" tag would surely put a large proportion of 009 modellers off?  ::)

Mick
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: Tigger on March 05, 2013, 12:08
ABSOLUTELY Mick!  The last thing I want to be called is 'sensible'!!  Life is by far to much fun for it to be sensible!!

I was discussing just that subject with my collection of singing potatoes only the other day...

NURSE!!  He's out of bed again... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: Isle of Stoner on March 10, 2013, 19:30
Do you have singing potatoes too?

John W ;D
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: Tigger on March 11, 2013, 13:53
Yes, they make good company for the acrobatic sprouts...  ;D
Title: Re: Question about Peco 009 mainline turnouts
Post by: berryr99 on March 11, 2013, 14:32
There's a serious case of thread drift here !

B.